Hillary Asks China To Hack IRS !!!!

[ecco]

What I wonder about all of this is how people know when Trump is joking.

People will know when Donald tells them so.

Serious Donald: Russia, if you got them emails - release them.
After-the-fact Donald: That was just me being a kidder.

Serious Donald: Mexico is going to pay for the wall.
After-the-fact Donald: That was just me being a kidder.

 

[Revoltingest]

They're politicians. They're not comedians.

The most effective ones are often both.

What they say most times than not will be taken literally, and probably should be taken literally. How many times have politicians spin their own words and actions to change their position only to suit them better in the current situation.

Then you'd take seriously Hillary's call for Chinese
hacking because she's so very dour & humorless?

What we're seeing here is that anti-Trumpettes want to believe
The Donald was seriously calling for Russian hacking because
it confirms their hatred for him, & the delicious opportunity to
accuse him of treason.
They'd never do the same for Hillary because she's one of them.
All her faults are ignored or excused.

 

[ecco]

But that doesn't address the anti-Trumpette claim that Trump was publicly
asking for Russian hacker help, & fully expecting them to comply.

I don't see his comments as asking the Russians for help. I see them as a brag to his Sheeples. He knows the emails are going to be released and he wants his Sheeples to know that he knows.

 

[ecco]

I decided to re-read the OP. I carefully read the CNN story.

Hillary did not ask the Chinese to hack the IRS and release Trump's returns.

Revoltingest intentionally pasted a small portion of her comments out of context to create a false narrative.

Following is a larger, more inclusive portion of Hillary's comments to Rachael Maddow. (my emphases)

"Imagine, Rachel, that you had one of the Democratic nominees for 2020 on your show, and that person said, 'You know, the only other adversary of ours who's anywhere near as good as the Russians is China. So why should Russia have all the fun? And since Russia is clearly backing Republicans, why don't we ask China to back us,'" Clinton said during an interview with MSNBC's Rachel Maddow, before invoking comments Trump made in 2016.
"And not only that, 'China, if you're listening, why don't you get Trump's tax returns. I'm sure our media would richly reward you,'" Clinton said. "Now, according to the Mueller report, that is not conspiracy because it's done right out in the open. So if after this hypothetical Democratic candidate says this on your show, within hours, all of a sudden, the IRS offices are bombarded with incredibly sophisticated cybertools looking for Trump's tax returns, and then extracts and them and then passes them to whatever the new WikiLeaks happens to be and they start being unraveled and disclosed, nothing wrong with that."
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It's clear she was talking about the absurdity of Mueller's findings.

 

[Revoltingest]

Revoltingest intentionally pasted a small portion of her comments out of context to create a false narrative.

You're only now realizing what I did?
It was an incomplete narrative designed to illuminate.
I'd already pointed out that my intent behind posting the inflammatory comment
without context was to show that anti-Trumpettes have a double standard.
They take Trump's joke seriously, ignoring the context because they hate him.
But they seek out Hillary's humorous context because they like her, & couldn't
accept the same judgment by the same standard being applied to her.

 

[wellwisher]

It would be funny if China had the Hillary e-mails, since China did more US hacking than Russia, by an order of magnitude. The Chinese used to steal between $225 billion and $600 billion annually in intellectual property using various private and government sanctioned hacking methods. The Russians were small fries by that standard. Asking Russian to hack, is like asking the smallest kid to play center on your basketball team. That was the joke. Both the US and China were way ahead in that category.

The Russians did not have to clandestinely hack Hillary's server, since the Russians and Putin gave the Clinton Foundation $145 million. Even if we assume this was a legitimate donation, the Russian would have access to Hillary's server, via e-mail, to work out the deal and for payment transfer.

If Hillary open up any of Putin's email, the Russians are allowed in the server. An e-mail attachment is how virus get into a computer. After entry into the server, all the Russians had to do was linger in the server and observe in real time. This is the inside joke of Trump, that got the Clintons and Obamas to scramble.

The greed and arrogance of Hillary, made Hillary communicate with Putin, often, trying to get him to raise the donation, leading to her tossing out her common sense in terms of email entry. Then Bill and Barack had to scramble to clean up the mess.

Besides that, many US intel agencies also hacked the Hillary server. Many people in US government were aware of the server. The clandestine hacking was done to help protect Hillary from herself. These e-mails are out there on US government secure cloud backup.

 

[ecco]

You're only now realizing what I did?
It was an incomplete narrative designed to illuminate.
I'd already pointed out that my intent behind posting the inflammatory comment
without context was to show that anti-Trumpettes have a double standard.
They take Trump's joke seriously, ignoring the context because they hate him.
But they seek out Hillary's humorous context because they like her, & couldn't
accept the same judgment by the same standard being applied to her.

C O P O U T !

 

[Revoltingest]

C O P O U T !

Anger over my manipulating you?

 

[sealchan]

He'd have no need to solicit an act they'd already performed, ie,
hack into her emails. But his joke was about her missing emails.
Question for you....did those later turn up?

There is a point there, I will admit, but only a technicality...

 

[Revoltingest]

There is a point there, I will admit, but only a technicality...

It's an inconvenient technicality for anti-Trumpettes though.

 

[FragrantGrace]

Something fun in the news....
Hillary Clinton suggests scenario in which Democrat asks China to hack IRS for Trump's tax returns - CNNPolitics


This post is for people who believe Trump openly asked the Russians to hack her emails.
Please explain the difference between his treason & hers.

The Trump suggestion that Russia find Hillary's missing emails was a play on the 2016 Russia collusion lie that started those three years ago.

Whereas how can we say Hillary was joking about China and the IRS?
Hillary is absolutely guilty of espionage, violating the records act,obstruction of justice, and destroying subpoenaed evidence when she scrubbed her illegal server hard drive, had her staff destroy their lap tops and cell phones.
Hillary however asked this to occur in 2019 and tried to start more garbage by claiming , "Since Russia is clearly backing Republicans...."

Someone bring more wine to that woman so she can stay in the bottle and not on Leftist cable propaganda shows.

 

[FragrantGrace]

 

[FragrantGrace]

There should be a medication for TDS by now. Maybe when Trump is re-elected in 2020 that'll be the cure. All sufferers will implode from the shock that the Demoncrats lost again.

Judicial Watch: FBI Admits Hillary Clinton Emails Found in Obama White House
APRIL 23, 2019

 

[sealchan]

It's an inconvenient technicality for anti-Trumpettes though.

Its a distraction...for people that can recognize obvious context. I've met people who refuse to understand a hypothetical is not anything like a direct statement or even a joke. My assumption is that the hypothetical is interpreted as a statement that the person really believes rather than a statement meant to make a logical point.

 

[sealchan]

You're only now realizing what I did?
It was an incomplete narrative designed to illuminate.
I'd already pointed out that my intent behind posting the inflammatory comment
without context was to show that anti-Trumpettes have a double standard.
They take Trump's joke seriously, ignoring the context because they hate him.
But they seek out Hillary's humorous context because they like her, & couldn't
accept the same judgment by the same standard being applied to her.

Okay I see now what you were aiming at...maybe even see it as well done.

Trump was towing a line he probably knows well how to step up to without publicly crossing...like a man waving his arms as if he is off-balance while standing on the edge of a cliff. That is how he gets attention.

Clinton was falling for that bait somewhat as she can't see how someone would be so crass. But that's "her issue" and she has a track record of being the sort that is offended by such irresponsible talk ("basket of deplorables"). But I won't fault her too much for that. If your position is that one of the world's most powerful leaders should regularly and proudly use such tactics as Trump does then that is unfortunate. I think it shows an ability to deal with the devil. Sure you might appreciate his platform and accomplishments while in office, but can you also speak to the character with which he uses his unique and powerful soapbox to unnecessarily create fear and suspicion?

So when you refer to the president you call him by his last name. When you refer to Clinton you use her first? Is that another intended example of how a person treats people differently depending on whether you like them or not?

 

[Revoltingest]

So when you refer to the president you call him by his last name. When you refer to Clinton you use her first? Is that another intended example of how a person treats people differently depending on whether you like them or not?

I don't like any of them.

I often refer to Trump as "The Donald" (an old moniker he's sported at times).
"Hillary" is useful to distinguish her from Bill, since both were presidential
candidates & White House occupants. (She was "co-president" as he claimed.)

Btw, I noticed that you never objected when I referred to
GW Bush as "Dubya" (to avoid confusion with GHW Bush.

 

[Wu Wei]

I don't like any of them.

I often refer to Trump as "The Donald" (an old moniker he's sported at times).
"Hillary" is useful to distinguish her from Bill, since both were presidential
candidates & White House occupants. (She was "co-president" as he claimed.)

Btw, I noticed that you never objected when I referred to
GW Bush as "Dubya" (to avoid confusion with GHW Bush.

Why don't you just admit it...you are still crushing on Hillary....

 

[Revoltingest]

Why don't you just admit it...you are still crushing on Hillary....

In her younger days, when she was hotter & I was dumber......it could'a happened.