Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I found it surprising Bachmann has more dishonest than Trump.
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I found the combined falsities and honesties interesting. While Bachman had the most pants on fire, Sanders had none.I found it surprising Bachmann has more dishonest than Trump.
Seems to suggest democrats are somehow immune to the same accusations?Yeah, because we all know the truth is "whatever makes you feel good". No wonder you're a conservative.
Not at all, they have ratings and fact checkers on them, too. But you would rather "think for yourself" (whatever that means) with no evidence than to at least consider that the republican camp makes more false statements than the opposition, with document evidence to go with it. Sorry, not buying it until something else comes along to challenge it.Seems to suggest democrats are somehow immune to the same accusations?
I go by results than skewed polls and charts like politifact. The facts themselves usually appear after the "fact" hidden by smoke and mirrors of such propaganda sites like politifact.It isn't about not thinking for yourself, but there are dedicated teams who give cited sources to their work. This isn't some left winger with an axe to grind. If you have something of equal caliber and research potential, share with the class and prove us all wrong. Until you or someone else steps up to plate, these "biased sources" will continue to tee off on accusations until the right can prove otherwise. A task that has failed miserably up until now.
What results? From where?I go by results
You are being ambiguous with no specifics or examples. This is what I am getting at. There are, quite literally, hundreds if not thousands of statements on that website with sources to go with them. I would be very interested to see you take a few of those studies, investigate them, gather sources and then overturn their conclusion. You can talk about "political history" until you are blue in the face, but until you cite sources and present an argument contrary to what has been given, it is nothing but smoke and mirrors with no credible content.It's called political history. It's not hard to see any of the facts after the "facts" play out.
About as accurate as it gets.
I am not surprised.Clinton is not only far more honest than Trump, but she is more honest than many other prominent American politicians. Comments?
Telling it like it is doesn't help when Trump constantly contradicts himself and is ill informed if not out right lying.I rather trust those who puts their cards on the table, than those who hide them.
Which is why I asked you - what fact checker do you recommend?
Well I have been hearing the old Hillary does her share of lying also.Telling it like it is doesn't help when Trump constantly contradicts himself and is ill informed if not out right lying.
I remember her rookie days. Her record still stands by what she says. When asked about controversial votes she doesn't say dumb things like "I never said that", she will acknowledge the mistake. The one I can think of is about imposing stricter bankruptcy laws.Well I have been hearing the old Hillary does her share of lying also.
Mmm, maybe, who really knows.I remember her rookie days. Her record still stands by what she says. When asked about controversial votes she doesn't say dumb things like "I never said that", she will acknowledge the mistake. The one I can think of is about imposing stricter bankruptcy laws.
In a brief but interesting article for The Hill, Mark Mellman cites a few figures that show Republicans tend to change their views and values in order to “follow the leader” during this election season. For instance, two polls show that 83-84% of Republicans now give their support to Trump, whereas last year a third of Republicans said they wouldn't support Trump if he were the nominee.
Another highly informative example:
In 2011, just 36 percent of Republicans believed someone “who commits an immoral act in their personal life can still behave ethically ... in their public office,” according to a PRRI Brookings poll. By October of this year, with Trump’s immorality being trumpeted everywhere, 70 percent of Republicans were distinguishing between politicians’ private and public lives — double the number five years ago.
Here Democrats’ views also evolved, but their level of agreement with this notion rose by a far lesser 12 points.
https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/opinion/mark-mellman/302771-mellman-follow-the-leader
So perhaps there is difference between Democrats and Republicans in their partisan allegiance?
How do they measure who lies more?
The one naturally built in your head. Best fact checker around.
I remember her rookie days. Her record still stands by what she says. When asked about controversial votes she doesn't say dumb things like "I never said that", she will acknowledge the mistake.
This one?