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Hillary Concedes At 2:30am EST!!!

Neo Deist

Th.D. & D.Div. h.c.
Look on the bright side...the new First Lady will be one of the best looking ones in the history of the White House. :p

I was not prepared for a First Gentleman by way of Bill Clinton. :eek:
 

Thanda

Well-Known Member
There's never been a shred of evidence that the election was being rigged. It was more conspiracy theorist bull****. Trump's standard fare.

I'm saying it was a good thing he spoke about it - or IOW he brought attention to it - because it was not outside the realm of possibility for the people who rigged the democratic election and the polls to attempt to rig the actual elections
 

Nietzsche

The Last Prussian
Premium Member
I'm saying it was a good thing he spoke about it - or IOW he brought attention to it - because it was not outside the realm of possibility for the people who rigged the democratic election and the polls to attempt to rig the actual elections
You got any proof they would've? Beyond Alex Jones?
 

Thanda

Well-Known Member
You got any proof they would've? Beyond Alex Jones?

Not any conclusive proof - just the fact that she, a seasoned, experienced and well known politician, struggled against a nobody (Bernie) and is now being trounced by the worst American presidential candidate in history. It makes sense to me that the only way she managed to get this far was that a lot of powerful people with vested interested did all they could (ethical or not) to get her in power.
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Not any conclusive proof - just the fact that she, a seasoned, experienced and well known politician, struggled against a nobody (Bernie) and is now being trounced by the worst American presidential candidate in history. It makes sense to me that the only way she managed to get this far was that a lot of powerful people with vested interested did all they could (ethical or not) to get her in power.
We can easily say the opposite that a lot of powerful people with vested interest did(very unethically) all they could to keep her out of power.
 

Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Not any conclusive proof - just the fact that she, a seasoned, experienced and well known politician, struggled against a nobody (Bernie) and is now being trounced by the worst American presidential candidate in history. It makes sense to me that the only way she managed to get this far was that a lot of powerful people with vested interested did all they could (ethical or not) to get her in power.
Are you using irony? Since both of your points would indicate the exact opposite of your proposition....and I'm up way after I should have been asleep.
 

Thanda

Well-Known Member
We can easily say the opposite that a lot of powerful people with vested interest did(very unethically) all they could to keep her out of power.

Nope they didn't - the wikileaks emails prove it (and the dead wrong "polls").
 

Mister_T

Forum Relic
Premium Member
I guess people really believed where Hilary decided to store her emails is more vile than any absurdity that came out of Trump's mouth, regardless of how under-qualified he was. Embarrassing doesn't even begin to describe it.
 

Thanda

Well-Known Member
Are you using irony? Since both of your points would indicate the exact opposite of your proposition....and I'm up way after I should have been asleep.

Nope they don't. She has been around for a long time - she could have used that time to build a good reputation for herself. Had she done so she would have swept aside Bernie and Trump. Instead she accomplished nothing noteworthy other than involving America in more questionable wars and herself in more scandals. Despite this, and despite her clear unpopularity as shown by attendances to her rallies, the Democratic elite was absolutely determined to get her in power.

As for Donald Trump, everyday I checked the news there was one negative article about him after another. You hardly heard anything about Hillary. It was as if the Media was saying "Vote for Hillary because Trump is a really bad guy". And the polls were giving her all the momentum, punting her to win by a landslide (I remember she was supposed to be ahead by 15% in some polls). But she has instead been absolutely crushed.

Now do you think it was just an honest mistake from the pollsters? The polls are normally correct so why did they suddenly, in this election, because so hopelessly and pathetically wrong?
 

idav

Being
Premium Member
Electoral vote at this point 276 to 213(done) but look at this popular vote, and Cali not done yet.

123.2M votes counted

Trump 47.67
Hillary 47.53
 

Scuba Pete

Le plongeur avec attitude...
The USA has been lost to bigots and hatriots. It's a sad day, indeed. That's my take on this election.
 
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