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Hillary wins New Hampshire by 2 delegate votes

ShivaFan

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Look at the corruption in the Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders wins New Hampshire by 20 points over Hillary Clinton. But who gets the nomination is determined by delegate count. Bernie wins by a landslide in N.H. and Hillary wins more N.H. delegates than Bernie thus effectively she won New Hampshire not Bernie. Now 100% delegate count is not totally in yet, this isn't the final tally as we are still in the high 90 percentages, but I am telling you, you Bernie Sanders supporters just had an entire election of a primary state stolen from you by "Super Delegates" and your victory literally taken away from you by the corrupt DNC establishment and Clinton Machine and I don't think you even realize it. This is what you get for giving the Clintun's so much power in the backrooms of government and the benefactors of their crony hooks and hookers. You won. But you lost.

Democratic 96% Reporting
Delegates Allocated N.H.D.

Winner B. Sanders 60.1%, 13 delegayes
Hillary Clinton 38.2%, 15 delegates

Republican 96% Reporting
Delegates Allocated N.H.R.

Winner D. Trump 35.4%, 10 delegates
John Kasich 15.7%, 3 delegates
Ted Cruz 11.7% , 2 delegates
Jeb Bush 11.0%, 2 delegates
 
Shiranui117

Shiranui117

Pronounced Shee-ra-noo-ee
Premium Member
ShivaFan said:
Look at the corruption in the Democratic Party. Bernie Sanders wins New Hampshire by 20 points over Hillary Clinton. But who gets the nomination is determined by delegate count. Bernie wins by a landslide in N.H. and Hillary wins more N.H. delegates than Bernie thus effectively she won New Hampshire not Bernie. Now 100% delegate count is not totally in yet, this isn't the final tally as we are still in the high 90 percentages, but I am telling you, you Bernie Sanders supporters just had an entire election of a primary state stolen from you by "Super Delegates" and your victory literally taken away from you by the corrupt DNC establishment and Clinton Machine and I don't think you even realize it. This is what you get for giving the Clintun's so much power in the backrooms of government and the benefactors of their crony hooks and hookers. You won. But you lost.

Democratic 96% Reporting
Delegates Allocated N.H.D.

Winner B. Sanders 60.1%, 13 delegayes
Hillary Clinton 38.2%, 15 delegates

Republican 96% Reporting
Delegates Allocated N.H.R.

Winner D. Trump 35.4%, 10 delegates
John Kasich 15.7%, 3 delegates
Ted Cruz 11.7% , 2 delegates
Jeb Bush 11.0%, 2 delegates
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Where are you getting the delegate numbers from?
 
esmith

esmith

Veteran Member
http://dailycaller.com/2016/02/10/h...-hampshire-delegates-than-sanders-after-loss/
Sanders won 60 percent of the vote, but thanks to the Democratic Party’s nominating system, he leaves the Granite State with at least 13 delegates while she leaves with at least 15 delegates.


Under Democratic National Committee rules, New Hampshire also has 8 “superdelegates,” party officials who are free to commit to whomever they like, regardless of how their state votes. Their votes count the same as delegates won through the primary.

New Hampshire has 8 superdelegates, 6 of which are committed to Hillary Clinton, giving her a total of 15 delegates from New Hampshire as of Wednesday at 9 a.m.

The state’s 2 remaining superdelegates remain uncommitted.
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beenherebeforeagain

beenherebeforeagain

Rogue Animist
Premium Member
In both parties, for many election cycles now, it's been about the rules and how delegates are allocated, not about who actually wins each state election or caucus. It's about organization and the party, not about the candidates, and certainly not about the preferences of the American people. In both parties, even if the voters clearly prefer someone else, it's the party regulars, the establishment, that controls the process. "outsiders" always seem surprised about that. IMO, at least.
 
Sultan Of Swing

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Revoltingest said:
As I understand it, the DNC has "superdelegates", who can vote as they (or their masters) please.
The party can to some extent decide who wins.
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What's the justification for superdelegates other than the party establishment having undue influence over who wins? There must be some kind of rational thinking behind it.

Gee, American politics, I just can't.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sultan Of Swing said:
What's the justification for superdelegates other than the party establishment having undue influence over who wins? There must be some kind of rational thinking behind it.
Gee, American politics, I just can't.
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Those in power like to maintain power.
So they set up a system wherein they have some control over their unruly delegates.
It gives the appearance of being democratic, but without things so likely to get out of hand.
 
Augustus

Augustus

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To paraphrase Henry Kissinger "The issues are much too important for the Chilean American voters to be left to decide for themselves"...
 
Sultan Of Swing

Sultan Of Swing

Well-Known Member
Doing a bit of friendly googling apparently superdelegates have never actually decided a primary (correct me if I'm wrong), and the popular vote does... soooo I guess Bernie should be alright if he keeps on winning.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Sultan Of Swing said:
Doing a bit of friendly googling apparently superdelegates have never actually decided a primary (correct me if I'm wrong), and the popular vote does... soooo I guess Bernie should be alright if he keeps on winning.
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The popular vote correlates with winning, but it isn't the system we use.
We have the electoral college, & they vote for us ordinary voters.
 
jeager106

jeager106

Learning more about Jehovah.
Premium Member
Oh...........groan! Please NOT ANOTHER CLINTON!
I was hoping she'd get beat and we wouldn't have to put up with another demon-crate,
especially a Klinton.
I'd be o.k. with a demo running really, just not her.
 
9-10ths_Penguin

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Revoltingest said:
The party can to some extent decide who wins.
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Why shouldn't a political party choose its own candidates by its own rules? It's its own entity, and nobody's forced to join. If a party alienates its base, they'll just leave... right?

Edit: it's always struck me as strange how much the government gets to dictate things in American political parties' internal affairs.
 
Revoltingest

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
9-10ths_Penguin said:
Why shouldn't a political party choose its own candidates by its own rules? It's its own entity, and nobody's forced to join. If a party alienates its base, they'll just leave... right?
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Who's saying they've no legal right to do this?
Edit: it's always struck me as strange how much the government gets to dictate things in American political parties' internal affairs.
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We're merely discussing this party's behavior.
 
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