Hindu goat sacrifice sparks riot

[fantome profane]

Happy Thanksgiving (early or late)



BUFFY: With mom at Aunt Darlene's this year, I'm not getting a thanksgiving. Maybe it's just as well.

ANYA: Well, I think that's a shame. I love a ritual sacrifice.

BUFFY: It's not really a one of those.

ANYA: To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.

:turkey: :eat:

 

[ChristineES]

Some people break out the tofu turkey at Thanksgiving.

 

[fantome profane]

Some people break out the tofu turkey at Thanksgiving.

And I am actually one of those people too, but I thought it might be appropriate to put this in a cultural context that many people are more familiar with.

 

[Father Heathen]

This guy seems to be enjoying himself.
http://beacononline.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/maar-the-animal-sacrifice.gif
Wonder how many parasites people get from doing that.

:thud::run:

 

[Father Heathen]

I doubt the intention means much to the poor animal.

Perhaps not, but if an animal must die it should be for a beneficial reason, i.e. sustenance. That way it's death isn't entirely in vain. The food chain is natural. Killing and torture for voodoo's sake, not so much.

 

[Madhuri]

Perhaps not, but if an animal must die it should be for a beneficial reason, i.e. sustenance. That way it's death isn't entirely in vain. The food chain is natural. Killing and torture for voodoo's sake, not so much.

Oh, I certainly agree.

 

[Madhuri]

MOD POST

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[Diederick]

What use would a deity have with a dead goat?

I think the dead goat is not the the actual prize, it is more that the people of the God have one goat less, actually sacrificing a means of their own, in this case a source of food (I assume). It's like cutting yourself as a sacrifice to God, just not as creepy.

Fortunately that doesn't work in today's society, because people are no longer dependant on goats. Goats are not scarce and food (the purpose of goats) is everywhere. It would be a better sacrifice to blow up a large factory which processes raw materials into food, or burn down one of those enormous wheatfields.

The dead goat is more ritual than sacrifice, is my guess.

And it goes without saying that slaughtering animals without a real purpose for them (utility, food or science) is naughty.

 

[Muffled]

I agree but at least that's for food not for favours from a diety.

It depends on the custom. One would not eat much meat if it were only eaten at festivals. Without storage capability a group feast sounds like a good way to not wste anything and at the same time share with the poor who usually wouldn't have the money to purchase meat.

How much of that is God looking out for His own interests compared to looking out for the interests of His people I couldn't say. As far as I can tell God doesn't even get to eat the meal. All that God gets is worship and respect.

 

[Muffled]

Happy Thanksgiving (early or late)



BUFFY: With mom at Aunt Darlene's this year, I'm not getting a thanksgiving. Maybe it's just as well.

ANYA: Well, I think that's a shame. I love a ritual sacrifice.

BUFFY: It's not really a one of those.

ANYA: To commemorate a past event, you kill and eat an animal. It's a ritual sacrifice, with pie.

:turkey: :eat:

Can you then imagine eating God or one's firstborn? There we have Easter and Passover. I could never understand the desire to eat ham at Easter. Is this a conscious effort to be different?

 

[Midnight Pete]

Again, sacrifice was part of ancient Hinduism. A sacrifice is simply a ritualized meal in which the gods are invited to participate. What's the big deal? People buy meat at the supermarket and eat it.

Buying meat at the supermarket is not a sacrifice to the gods. It's just buying meat. Meat that is already dead, btw.

 

[Muffled]

Some people break out the tofu turkey at Thanksgiving.

Tofu would definitely be a sacrifice for me because I don't like the bean turd. So just give me the bird and I will be happy.

The question has been asked about what is being celebrated at thanksgiving. My understanding is that those living were being thankful that they made it through the hard times alive snce many of their fellow parishoners didn't. My ancester Priscilla Mullins lost both her mother and father. She did gain a husband in John Alden but that is another story, but at least I am here to tell about it, lol.

 

[Breathe]

Meat that is already dead, btw.

Someone still kills it, though.

Is the meat eaten by the worshippers, or is it burnt up in fire? I'm not entirely sure.

I think a lot of this is ancient ritual. As long as the animal is not put through pain, and the meat is given to the needy, I can't really say much against it against it.

Although I don't understand the idea of a deity wanting blood or animal sacrifice. Mother Durga is my main goddess (the to whom people sacrificed the goats), and I'm a vegetarian (a bad one, though ).

 

[Onkara]

Hi Odion
Good to see you back online.
It was news to me to read that any animals were sacrificed during Durga Puja.

 

[Madhuri]

Same, I would have thought maybe for Kali worshippers but not Durga. But I'm not completely familiar with some of those sects.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

Buying meat at the supermarket is not a sacrifice to the gods. It's just buying meat. Meat that is already dead, btw.

You know the question has to be asked, would ritual sacrifice actually be more humane in the treatment of the animal then slaughterhouses? I think it would.

 

[Onkara]

You know the question has to be asked, would ritual sacrifice actually be more humane in the treatment of the animal then slaughterhouses? I think it would.

I think so too. I doubt there is any dignity and the value in a knackers yard or a mass production slaughter house. I daren't search the internet for photos to back me up as I am sure I would be sorry to see them.

 

[Valjean]

Offering a "sacrifice" to God then later eating it yourself doesn't seem quite right. :sarcastic

 

[Breathe]

Offering a "sacrifice" to God then later eating it yourself doesn't seem quite right. :sarcastic

What if you believe God is within?

 

[Valjean]

Theophagy!?