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Hindu Sculptures

Sb1995

Om Sai Ram
I never like the idea of dividing people in upper and lower classes, it is against moral values. Educated people who have little sense of humanity will never accept this Shudras and outcastes classification.

That's funny. Explain the Shia's getting slaughtered in pakistan. Hindus and Sikh's getting killed because they are "lower" than muslims? lol nice joke
 

Farrukh

Active Member
That's funny. Explain the Shia's getting slaughtered in pakistan. Hindus and Sikh's getting killed because they are "lower" than muslims? lol nice joke

I know you are just doing propaganda, but as a human being, we should strongly condemn if such things happen. seems like you are supporting bad.
 

Triumphant_Loser

Libertarian Egalitarian
i was just wondering how people can make gods for themselves with their own hands? like i can take some clay and make a god that will solve my problems, will it be foolish or will it make sense?
I studied in a book that father of Abraham may peace be upon him had similar job, he used to made tiny and big gods, and poor people used to buy mini ones while rich people used to buy bigger ones. and then one day Prophet Abraham may peace be upon him broke all their gods.

I suppose in the same way that prophets can create gods within their own mind that solves all their problems, then write a book about it.
 

Sb1995

Om Sai Ram
I know you are just doing propaganda, but as a human being, we should strongly condemn if such things happen. seems like you are supporting bad.

of course its propaganda if it's anti islam. its always inside jobs and propaganda whenever a muslim does something :facepalm:
 

ShivaFan

Satyameva Jayate
Premium Member
Hello Farrukh

Please don't bring up caste (jati, which is different from varna), advanced Hindus are dealing with resolving this confused practice at the highest levels of several ancient Sampradayas (think of these as sects, such as you have Sunni and Shia). You know I am against jati which is used as "profession determined by birth", and Hindus as myself are trying to see tbrough this but it is the higher stalwarts and religious leaders who have already done much success and more resolution is coming. But I cannot deal with such on a forum level, and within this thread about God Figures it would be too complex among non-Hindus and off subject. I understand you are from Pakistan, so I perfectly understand the history behind Suni feelings regarding this, but this is not the place. You know, I will be going to Pakistan in a few years so I hope I will not be persecuted. You know, many Pakistanis are actually Bharatis or Indians. Do not worry about caste (birth profession), everything is being resolved, but you have to understand that even though castism extremism is the minority, those who do are just like me and you, they have families, servants, roles and places in society, these must be handled in a gentle way. For example, a nice land owner may practice by birth jati, he has dreams for his son, and let us say he has 5 servants who depend on him for a job to support their family. If he becomes too angry at someone like me, he may take his anger out on his son who may have love for a Muslim girl. Or worse he may then take it out on his servants (God knows why?) and send them home with no job. You know perhaps what I am talking about.

So let us just no go there in this thread.

As far as God objects, you know at the Kabah, the corner black rock, which is likely a meteorite, is given devotion by many Muslims. Whether a meteor or some black stone, I can tell you it is very old, before Islam, and we should not think of such as idol worship. You understand? So Jagganath is like that too, inside the wooden Jagannath is something small and also very old. While time is relative, all value the ancient roots which are cherishable and preserved.

Om Namah Sivaya
 
the Sculptures come from Hellenism. The Gods existed before the statues, the statues were made after the Eastern world saw Greek statues.
 

Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
the Sculptures come from Hellenism. The Gods existed before the statues, the statues were made after the Eastern world saw Greek statues.

I don't think Hindus copied from Greece or Egypt. Maybe some people might like to believe that, but this is the first time I've heard of it.

Of course you are entitled to your opinion.
 

Aupmanyav

Be your own guru
Moyan-jo-dero (Mound of the dead): 2600 BCE (Yes, later we had Greek type of statues also in Gandhara and Mathura).

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However, Hindus do not require finely crafted statues for their Gods and Goddesses: Omkareshwara, Karyasiddhi Vinayaka, Swayambhu Ganesha, Vaishno Devi. Nearly all Hindu households would have a Holy Basil plant (Tulasi) and the women would worship it each morning. Tulasi is considered a consort of Lord Vishnu.

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Vinayaka

devotee
Premium Member
However, Hindus do not require finely crafted statues for their Gods and Goddesses

Indeed. When sugar was king, and The British unknowingly spread Hinduism 9by spreading |Hindus) far and wide, the indentured labourers often crafted statues from the local materials, like lava rock. Without any marble or granite available, they just made do with the local stuff.
 
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