Hinduism and Indian Culture

[zenzero]

Friend satsangi,

Before and after?
What is there in between?
just a *thought*.
whatever you label as guru, iswar etc. is all there waiting for *you* to vacate the mind; when you* leave, they [IT] simply takes over.
meditate! meditate!
Love & rgds

 

[Satsangi]

Friend satsangi,

Before and after?
What is there in between?
just a *thought*.
whatever you label as guru, iswar etc. is all there waiting for *you* to vacate the mind; when you* leave, they [IT] simply takes over.
meditate! meditate!
Love & rgds

Agreed in between is just a thought. Meditation alone does not vacate the mind, my friend. Even after the deepest of all Samadhis people return to their bodies due to remnant of Vasana or "thought" however small it may be; otherwise there is no reason for them to return back!! Yes, some people are really like Ishwara who can go in and out at their free will and even put others in Samadhi- those are few blessed ones. To really cross to the "other side" completely, you NEED BLESSINGS.

Regards,

 

[zenzero]

Friend satsangi,

Each individual is [potentially] an avatar; separated by *thought/s*.
Going and coming is what the mind sees otherwise there is neither goings nor comings.
Similarly there is no blesser or blessed.
Love & rgds

 

[zenzero]

Friend satsangi,

Each individual is [potentially] an avatar; separated by *thought/s*.
Going and coming is what the mind sees otherwise there is neither goings nor comings.
Similarly there is no blesser or blessed.
Love & rgds

 

[Satsangi]

Friend Zenzero,
I believe, God Realization is NOT ONLY the end of mind. It is the essential step that one can attempt and possibly succeed- by end of mind one accomplishes only "Jagat Mitthya" part of what Adi Shankara said. The "Brahman Satyam" realization is only by grace of that Paramatma. If by the same grace if one realize "Brahman Satyam" part first then the Jagat already becomes Mitthya.

Regards,

 

[zenzero]

Friend satsangi,

Jagat is just another form of the same energy, dear friend.
Love & rgds

 

[Satsangi]

Friend satsangi,

Jagat is just another form of the same energy, dear friend.
Love & rgds

Agreed Zenzero, but He is the base of Jagat (aparashakti) and Universal Atma (Parashakti).
Regards

 

[zenzero]

Friend satsangi,

Yes, one on keep going deeper and deeper which is endless.
Existence is without limits and always expanding with consciousness.

LOve & rgds

 

[Satsangi]

Agreed friend Zenzero

Regards,

 

[Radhakrishnaji]

Love one love all is God's philosophy

 

[Radhakrishnaji]

God is always one with Atma

 

[Radhakrishnaji]

God is the Parmatma; the power that every human seeks unconciously

 

[Radhakrishnaji]

God is in every particle of this jagat and universe

 

[zenzero]

Friend Radhakrishnaji,

God is always one with Atma.
How do you know?

What is God?
What is atma?

Love & rgds

 

[zenzero]

Friend radhakrishnaji,

God is the Parmatma; the power that every human seeks unconciously.

Why not consciously?

What is parmatma?

 

[zenzero]

Friend radhakrishnaji,

God is in every particle of this jagat and universe.

So, we should study *particle physics*? to study god?

Love & rgds

 

[Valjean]

God is exactly what you make him/her/it. Big, small, with whatever limits you choose. We create (dream) our own universe. If we dream a yellow teakettle, there's a yellow teakettle. If we dream a blue flautist, there's a blue flautist. If we dream no God, there's no God.

There is Brahman, but brahman is isness itself, not a god.

 

[santdasji]

First of all we are not talking about swapna or shushupti so this has nothing to do with dreams. Yo uare talking about the states. Secondly, we do not talk of Brahman. We talk of Parbrahman. You have only gyan of Brahman which is good but not the final stage. Also just by saying all is Brahman is not good enough. Its a stage of realisation and level which is beyond maya. To become Brahmrup is not somthing which can simply be said..and its achieved. You have to pass many stages one of them being to rid the self of aham and inner enemies like lust, greed, avarice etc.. So once you perfect such a stage you have not attained oneness with Brahman no matter how much you state "all is Brahman." This is all true, all is Brahman.. but just like a person with a wishing stone (chintamani). the person calls it a stone but its greatness is not known. Just by calling it a stone then discarding it, the child will not reap its benefits. In the same way Maya aids us discard us knowing our true form and the nature of Brahman. So what to talk of Parbrahman?

 

[Metempsychosis]

Secondly, we do not talk of Brahman. We talk of Parbrahman. You have only gyan of Brahman which is good but not the final stage.

This is a Vashnavite view,I think Seyorni is probably talking from an advaitic viewpoint.


Regards,

 

[dharma_seeker]

^^ How can you tell that was a vashnavite view. I can see that Seyorni has a advaitic viewpoint but how could you tell that Santdasji had a vashnavite view?

Also, Brahman and ParBrahman..are these 2 words different? I thought they could be used synonymously?