Hindus and beef

[Desert Snake]

btw my 'plz don't quote' demarcations can just be gotten around by saying 'disciple', then answering or such, it's just when i'm addressing a portion of conversation that I don't want to argue with everyone, then I may or may not go back and delete.

 

[Poeticus]

No, I am not authorized to say mean things to you such as "you will suffer in hells", and certainly I would still be your friend, and very much so to those who never were a Hindu and eat beef, I will treat them with respect, show love and mercy appropriately.

For one who was already a Hindu and then knowingly eat beef, I am not the "police of dharma" nor a Bhairava nor will be mean to you or say you are going to hell, nor go bezerker and "hound" you, no. But I will give my honest opinion that you have "stepped away" and to return you MUST do penance.

Eating beef means taking a society surely down the path to war. This is what I am taught. A Hindu who does so has the effect of 10,000 non-Hindus taking a society down the path to war.

Do not confuse, I am not saying there are no just wars. I am not a fan of Gandhi. In fact, there may be a time or reason why war is brought upon for a reason by means of actually stimulating it by means of opportunity to eat beef, though rare. I do not recommend it.

For you, I do not say mean things. You can always be my friend, though I am not special, nor am I interested in endless preaching because basically I am lazy, not interested in the "whys" but only interested in results, outcomes and having fun in the process. If it works, don't try and fix it. If the garden is around you, no need to eat a toad "just to see". If the doctor says "drink this potion" and it works, cures me, I don't waste time asking "why" before or after, I get on with experiences, adventures, fun.

For you, I thought I saw something for you if you were a Hindu and knowingly ate beef. You should fly to India as soon as possible, go to Mother Ganga, enter Her embrace of jal, with hands in Namaskar. Then with devotion say "Mother Ganga". Nothing else you need to say. You will be instantly purified and a Hindu.

 

[Aupmanyav]

For the record, it is not required for a Muslim to kill a cow for sacrificial reasons - the actual animal is a goat or lamb which is supposed to be sacrificed. However, they may sacrifice a cow if they want to - but in the case of Gujurat, the Muslims should really only be sacrificing goats and lambs and sheep.

Ah, if all people were this considerate! Thanks, Scimi.

 

[Aupmanyav]

And I think it's Anaemia.

Or could it be 'basal rate metabolism'? And there is a Yajnavalkya Smriti (book of Hindu law). I do not know what my grandfather wrote about it, I seem to have misplaced his book "Vishweshwara Smriti". But I suppose it would have suggested vegetarianism. My grandfather was a non-vegetarian who turned to vegetarianism. Vegetarianism was not a essential requirement for warriors (kshatriyas) and shudras (manual workers), but even then always the preferred option.

 

[Poeticus]

Or could it be 'basal rate metabolism'?

Perhaps, I'm not too sure.

And there is a Yajnavalkya Smriti.

I'm sure there is. However, I still have yet to understand, and am eagerly awaiting for you to expound on, why this thread was created and why it was posted in the comparative religion section. What is the OP being compared to? And are you aware that numerous threads of pretty much the same nature are to be found on RF already? Any subject matter pertaining to Hindu/Beef has been already discussed about ad nauseam, Aup-dada.

 

[Vinayaka]

I still have yet to understand, and am eagerly awaiting for you to expound on, why this thread was created and why it was posted in the comparative religion section. .

I learned a lesson yesterday - not to respond to trolling type behaviour, whether it be intentional or not. So my guard is up.

Whenever you encounter a troll,
Ignore it and go for a stroll,
It's a waste of our time,
And not worth a dime,
So go get in touch with your soul.

 

[Chakra]

I guess Aup was just trying to invite discussion on this, since most people didn't know about this.

 

[George-ananda]

sounds like some people have a 'beef' with this thread....

:biglaugh:.......I kill me.....:biglaugh:


Sorry,,,couldn't stop myself..

 

[Poeticus]

I learned a lesson yesterday - not to respond to trolling type behaviour, whether it be intentional or not. So my guard is up.

Whenever you encounter a troll,
Ignore it and go for a stroll,
It's a waste of our time,
And not worth a dime,
So go get in touch with your soul.

Haha! A catchy rhyme!

I guess Aup was just trying to invite discussion on this, since most people didn't know about this.

Perhaps.

sounds like some people have a 'beef' with this thread....

:biglaugh:.......I kill me.....:biglaugh:


Sorry,,,couldn't stop myself..

... tasteless.

 

[Aupmanyav]

Never be afraid of a discussion. It always ends in bringing good. Vegetarians are fortified in their ways and perhaps some non-veg will like to try.
Aup likes controversies.

 

[Yeshe Dondrub]

Eating beef. Just came across this. Shatapatha Brahmana is part of Shukla YajurVeda and some ascribe it to around 2,200 BC.

It's origins or pre-hindiusm in brahman beliefs which are pre-Hinduism. Those aspects have carried over, even though some brahman aspects were challenged by what became Hinduism. Then Buddha sowed the idle path, and found ritual practice unbeneficial to people, as well as recommend not eating any animal but was not hard law. The cow aspects was much later then 2200 BC. THe pre-Brahmin laws of the earlier eras didn't have anything against nomad hunting.

 

[Aupmanyav]

The cow aspects was much later then 2200 BC.

I do not know. My guess is that the cow belief (abstaining from beef) was an indigenous belief. When Aryans came to live with Indians (whenever that happened, can be 3000 BC. After all, they dispersed from the valley of the disappeared Saraswati river sometime around 1,900 BC), they accepted the practice of the majority. After all, they were not prohibited from eating any other type of meat. A little adjustment for all round peace.

 

[Don Penguinoini]

I do not know. My guess is that the cow belief (abstaining from beef) was an indigenous belief. When Aryans came to live with Indians (whenever that happened, can be 3000 BC. After all, they dispersed from the valley of the disappeared Saraswati river sometime around 1,900 BC), they accepted the practice of the majority. After all, they were not prohibited from eating any other type of meat. A little adjustment for all round peace.

Wait, you believe in the Aryan Invasion Theory AND you'rea non vegetarian?

Wot

 

[Aupmanyav]

I believe in Aryan Migration Theory for the reason that no conflict between the Aryans and the indigenous people is mentioned in RigVeda. And I am a non-vegetarian, atheist Hindu of brahmin caste. (I think it would take you some time and perhaps some queries to understand me)

 

[Chakra]

Wait, you believe in the Aryan Invasion Theory AND you'rea non vegetarian?

Wot

Why would that be strange?

 

[Don Penguinoini]

axlyz, post: 4057251, member: 54039"]Why would that be strange?

It wouldn't, i'm just being silly