KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Well, you have repeatedly admitted that you agree with the nasty, homophobic prejudice in Bahai writings.
Nothing else left to say.
Gotta love that "free publicity", eh?
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Homosexuality and religious.
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Nothing else left to say.
Gotta love that "free publicity", eh?
Trailblazer
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I disagree with that but that is just my personal opinion. I do not think that having sexual urges is 'necessarily' desirable. Personally, I believe it is more desirable to be free of such urges (speaking as someone who has experienced both situations).
It all goes back to the meaning of 'better off.' What is better for one person is not necessarily better for another person, so I don't think it can be said that 'everyone' is better off having sexual urges or that 'everyone' is better off having no sexual urges. It all depends upon the person and their personal situation.
I agree with that part.
I agree that being happily married is better than being single, and better than being unhappily married, but I do not believe that sex is a necessary component of a happy marriage. When men get older and can no longer perform sexually, or when women get older and no longer have sexual desire, can they no longer have a happy marriage?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, I don't, since my faith is not blind faith.But you don't blindly follow dogma.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
Isn't this also true for gay people? Homosexuality is better for them, but not better for others? Should a gay person be prohibited from what is better for them?
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
There is no natural implication. I did not say that even if I agree with it.
I did not say that, Shoghi Effendi said that. He was judging.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
And yet your stock answer is "Cuz god sez".
Ands you have to accept whatever Bahaullah says, without any doubt, even if it is nonsensical.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You were not right since you claimed that the following was a quote from the Baha'i Writings.
The sentiment is there but there is no quote that says that.
"Sorry, my mistake. It is actually "a shameful sexual aberration that needs to be purged from the world."
#299 KWED, Yesterday at 2:47 PM
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No I don't have to. I choose to.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
I hope not.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Way to generalise much?
Sometimes when I visit my parents I can hear them getting jiggy with it at night. Most disturbing but also reassuring. I hope to still be enthusiastically playing hide the salami when I'm their age.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
Actually I do. People should know what they are buying before they buy it.Gotta love that "free publicity", eh?
People can choose to buy the product or not. That's the beauty of free will.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
If you believe in scripture, you cannot believe it is better for them.
You cannot have it both ways.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
No. As a Bahai, you have to.
Bahaullah said it is "incumbent" on you.
Incumbent: necessary for (someone) as a duty or responsibility
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
No, I do not have to do anything I do not choose to do because I have free will to choose.Ands you have to accept whatever Bahaullah says, without any doubt, even if it is nonsensical.
What is nonsensical to you is not nonsensical to everyone on planet Earth.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
And now people know that the Bahai "product" comes with built in homophobia.
You are welcome to the people who choose to buy that.
dybmh
ויהי מבדיל בין מים למים
OK. Thank you for your candor.If you believe in scripture, you cannot believe it is better for them.
You cannot have it both ways.
KWED
Scratching head, scratching knee
Some things are universally nonsensical. Bahaullah even gave two specific examples to show how nonsensical you are expected to just blindly accept...
"Were He to pronounce the right to be the left or the south to be the north, He speaketh the truth and there is no doubt of it."
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You quoted that out of context.
I said:
"I do not believe that sex is a necessary component of a happy marriage. When men get older and can no longer perform sexually, or when women get older and no longer have sexual desire, can they no longer have a happy marriage?"
But if men can perform sexually and if women still have sexual desire they can still have sex.
However, that does not mean that sex is a necessary component to a happy marriage. It might be necessary for some and unnecessary for others.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
WHAT is incumbent? I have to do what? Out of context that is meaningless.
Yes, once I am a Baha'i, certain things are incumbent, but it is not incumbent for me to choose to be a Baha'i.
Trailblazer
Veteran Member
You did no service. Anyone can get that information on the internet.