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Homosexuality is not natural and is not normality

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
If anal sex is so terrible and unnatural, then why are those things possible?
Gee, I don't know. Could it be to do with what comes out of it? I mean, I know it's just a stab in the dark but it might just not be healthy, whatya think. and it's certainly unnatural. and not normal.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Again, do you have anything other than your wishful thinking to support these claims?

Given your track record of speaking from ignorance, we will need something much more substantial than your "word".


more bold empty claims.
Medical fact dear boy. ;)
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Gee, I don't know. Could it be to do with what comes out of it? I mean, I know it's just a stab in the dark but it might just not be healthy, whatya think. and it's certainly unnatural. and not normal.

So you don't like poop. Ya know what, I'm not a huge fan of poop either. Don't get me wrong, I love pooping. But I don't necessarily like poop on me...Then again, I do have children and once you have children it doesn't really matter where the poop is. At some point, you're going to get poop on you. That being said, you are aware that there isn't always poop just hanging out in the anus, waiting to fall out, right?

Do you know how anatomy functions?

When you have heterosexual intercourse with a pregnant woman, do you imagine that you're just poking your child in the head with your Willy Wonka? Do you consider heterosexual vaginal intercourse to be unhealthy? I mean, if you don't clean up afterwards it can be kind of dirty...How is that different from homosexual or heterosexual anal sex?

It isn't.

Make that unnatural claim one more time and I'll post a gif of very natural, wild, unprovoked homosexual acts occurring in nature.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
Just exactly where do you live? Wierdsville?
How many woman have you talked to openly about their sexual preferences? How many videos have you watched on in the internet?
Just because the majority of the religious population is ignorant of the world around them doesn't make it any less true.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
The fact that something is natural does not mean that it is good. There are things that are wholly artificial that are wonderful. Where would we be without ibuprofen? Roads? Airplanes? How many people have been able to have children via in vitro fertilization? How many people benefit from our newest cancer treatments?

You know what else is natural? Cancer, the AIDS boogeyman you keep talking about, asteroid strikes, venomous snakes, an entire universe that, in the words of Neil Degrasse Tyson, is looking for ways to kill us. These things are quite natural.

For that matter, are prisons natural? You'll note that they are relatively recent modern inventions for punishment, as opposed to execution and banishment.

This is the problem. Nature defies your understanding of what is natural, so you are left making incoherent arguments that are ultimately rooted in a book written by people that make the Taliban look scientifically literate.
The ending is funny, I'll give you that.

There are many ways of saying something is natural, it depends on how one is defining it. Look it up. I have already posted it once.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
homosexuality is not a preference. It is something innate that happens to you and you have to accept it.

Agreed. Which is one strong indication that it is natural.

if a man doesn't want to procreate, there is vasectomy. a very good and definitive solution.
Using anal sex as birth control method is grotesque and squalid

So medical surgery is the best response? Not use of contraceptives or non-procreative sex, but surgery?

So much for nature.


again: the fact that some people are anatomically apt to turn non-sexual parts of the body into sexual ones....doesn't imply that all people can or are anatomically apt to.

Again, the fact that something has a reproductive function does not mean that it is the only "sexual" component of a human. Kissing becomes unnatural using this bizarre definition.

As for something or someone being "anatomically apt," you haven't addressed the prostate stimulation problem. Clearly, many men (and women) find anal stimulation pleasurable. There are theories as to why this might be the product of evolutionary "design" (i.e., adaptation), some of which hold it to be a byproduct and others useful for something else, like social cohesion.


No. Maybe it should have been: Vaginas are biologically compatible with penises. Anus is not, unless there is both anatomic predisposition and intensive training.

Biological compatibility gets us back to the same problem as above; it isn't an answer or explanation to the fundamental question.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
You want a patient zero? Good luck.
I think they are fairly sure on that one as origin.
Until you can find one, then your claim that "AIDS comes from 'dem gays" is going to need some work.
First seen in gay men in US as regards the west. Well documented.
How DID the women get it? How is it possible that 50% of the world's AIDS population are female when we KNOW it comes from 'all those ****'?
That's what I'm asking you.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
The ending is funny, I'll give you that.

There are many ways of saying something is natural, it depends on how one is defining it. Look it up. I have already posted it once.

You posted alternative definitions. I am asking what definition you are using.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
How are you defining natural? As in accordance with Jewish, Christian and Islamic scriptures, and the derivative theological traditions that they spawned? If so, the track record on understanding nature is pretty abysmal and you'll forgive rational people for rejecting it.
Have a look in a dictionary. I have posted it once. Anything that is not seen as normal behaviour, for example, could be said to not be natural,... like men with men for example.
 

gsa

Well-Known Member
Have a look in a dictionary. I have posted it once. Anything that is not seen as normal behaviour, for example, could be said to not be natural,... like men with men for example.

So in what sense is homosexuality abnormal? Because it is atypical?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
So you don't like poop. Ya know what, I'm not a huge fan of poop either. Don't get me wrong, I love pooping. But I don't necessarily like poop on me...Then again, I do have children and once you have children it doesn't really matter where the poop is. At some point, you're going to get poop on you. That being said, you are aware that there isn't always poop just hanging out in the anus, waiting to fall out, right?

Do you know how anatomy functions?
Let me see..... Does it have anything to do with poop?
When you have heterosexual intercourse with a pregnant woman, do you imagine that you're just poking your child in the head with your Willy Wonka? Do you consider heterosexual vaginal intercourse to be unhealthy? I mean, if you don't clean up afterwards it can be kind of dirty...How is that different from homosexual or heterosexual anal sex?
I assume you have been drinking...*hik*
It isn't.

Make that unnatural claim one more time and I'll post a gif of very natural, wild, unprovoked homosexual acts occurring in nature.
You say an awful lot of nothing, do you know that? Mean time, in the real world, gay sex is not normal nor natural.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
How many woman have you talked to openly about their sexual preferences? How many videos have you watched on in the internet?
Just because the majority of the religious population is ignorant of the world around them doesn't make it any less true.
I am beginning to really worry about you.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
First seen in gay men in US as regards the west. Well documented.

That's what I'm asking you.

What was his name? If there is a US patient zero who was a gay man, what was his name?

It might have been a gay man, but it could have been a gay woman. It could have been a straight woman who slept with an infected male somewhere in Africa and then came back home and slept with her bisexual boyfriend who at some point had sex with one of his make escorts. It could have been a government conspiracy. It could have been aliens... Whatever and however isn't important, is it?

It exists, it's split 50/50 between the genders and dealing with it is all that matters. Worrying about who did what is a worthless chore.

And I'm pretty sure you're going to use the argument that promiscuity among both genders is the cause for all of these great ills and probably recommend that following the wisdom found in the Bible about heterosexual (monogamous, I'm going to assume) relationships would have been a better alternative than the current state of affairs - but what's the point of that either? Education about sexually transmitted diseases and as much promiscuity as a heathen could want would be just as effective, wouldn't it?
 
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