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Homosexuality...

Lycan

Preternatural
Why is female homosexuality considered "not as bad" as male homosexuality?

I personally don't have a problem with either, but I have read serveral posts on homosexuality and it seems that the hang up is with gay men, with very little disagreeable remarks about gay women, why is this?
 

jewscout

Religious Zionist
Lycan said:
Why is female homosexuality considered "not as bad" as male homosexuality?

I personally don't have a problem with either, but I have read serveral posts on homosexuality and it seems that the hang up is with gay men, with very little disagreeable remarks about gay women, why is this?
Religiously speaking...lesbianism isn't explicitly prohibited in the Torah, though it is frowned upon...

women seem to ooze sexuality as it is...so to see 2 women get together it's a very beautiful and sexy thing...guys...we're typically not creatures that ooze sexuality in any form...so it's just not attractive...
Then again it could just be how our society over hundreds of years had indocterinated what we percieve as sexually attractive and not sexually attractive
honestly though i have no problems w/ homosexuals whether they be lesbian or gay men...and if it's a "sin" thats between them and the almighty i'm not here to point fingers and force them to be something they are not...
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
Lycan said:
Why is female homosexuality considered "not as bad" as male homosexuality?

I personally don't have a problem with either, but I have read serveral posts on homosexuality and it seems that the hang up is with gay men, with very little disagreeable remarks about gay women, why is this?
I think your choice of words in red was a mistake; Political correctness would advise you to change that pretty quick.

Perhaps because the replies are mainly from hetero men.
There is a theory, to which I subscibe, that homosexuality in the opposite sex from 'you' is much easier to understand than in 'your' own sex. ie it is easier for a hetero man to accept a relationship between tewo women than it is to accept it between two men. Add to that the fact that women 'see things' from a different perspective than men (ie emotion plays a bigger factor in their appreciation of things).

Make sense ?:)
 

Sunstone

De Diablo Del Fora
Premium Member
I suspect it might have something to do with the way our society tends to more easily accept intimacy between women than it does between men.
 

Lycan

Preternatural
I think your choice of words in red was a mistake; Political correctness would advise you to change that pretty quick.
They were entirely on purpose and surrounded by quotation marks for a reason. My question was from viewing different posts about how "bad" homosexuality is with males being targeted most. That is why those specific words were used.
 

Prima

Well-Known Member
Heh. All of the above responses are correct in their own way. A very smart guy explained it to me this way:

"Guys like women. Guys like sex. So what would a relatively normal teenage or young adult male like more than women having sex?!"

I think that this is true. Also, female closeness is more accepted. Girls hug a lot more openly than guys, for example.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
Because much like everything else in our society, it revolves around men. So why wouldn't the outcry against homosexuality focus on men?
 

Lightkeeper

Well-Known Member
I agree it's because men don't find it bad or disgusting. Also, women can procreate without a man, either by artificial insemination or by the union of two eggs. The union of two eggs creates a female.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Lycan said:
Why is female homosexuality considered "not as bad" as male homosexuality?

I personally don't have a problem with either, but I have read serveral posts on homosexuality and it seems that the hang up is with gay men, with very little disagreeable remarks about gay women, why is this?
In my point of view, it is because of the nature of male homosexual sex, which glorifies anal sex. The human rectum is inherently different from the human vagina. The tissue is thinner in the rectum, and it has harmful bacteria in it continually as it is the location of the expulsion of fesces. The rectum is damaged by anal sex whereas the vagina is not when sex is nonviolent and stimulated. In light of this evidence, I conclude that anal sex is harmful. Female homosexuals are not poking things into their rectums (at least it is not glorified and widely known) and oral sex is not harmful, so we need to appeal to religious arguments against the practice.
 

Scorn

Active Member
Actually a lot of heterosexual males engage in anal sex with their partners of opposite sex. They may not admit it in general conversation but that doesn't make them homosexual.
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
angellous_evangellous said:
In my point of view, it is because of the nature of male homosexual sex, which glorifies anal sex. The human rectum is inherently different from the human vagina. The tissue is thinner in the rectum, and it has harmful bacteria in it continually as it is the location of the expulsion of fesces. The rectum is damaged by anal sex whereas the vagina is not when sex is nonviolent and stimulated. In light of this evidence, I conclude that anal sex is harmful. Female homosexuals are not poking things into their rectums (at least it is not glorified and widely known) and oral sex is not harmful, so we need to appeal to religious arguments against the practice.

Oral sex is harmful, as STDs can be transmitted during oral sex. Anal sex is not reserved for gay men, lesbians do it too, and guess what, so do straight folks. I think the heart of this whole issue is homophobia. Striaght men are afraid of gay men. They look like them, they act like them (well most do), they are educated just the same level. Straight men are afraid that if THAT guy could be gay, maybe I could be too, and that scares them to death in our homophobic society. Lesbians aren't seen as big of an issue for some of the other reasons stated here already; men think of two women together is erotic, they are not threatened by gay women and usually look at them as a woman who just needs a good man to "turn her straight" (I kid you not, I've heard this one myself).

Anyway, that's some more of my thoughts on this.....
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Scorn said:
Actually a lot of heterosexual males engage in anal sex with their partners of opposite sex. They may not admit it in general conversation but that doesn't make them homosexual.
Yes, and that has no bearing on my point. I conclude that heterosexual anal sex is harmful in the same logic: it is nothing like the vagina and causes harm.
 
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angellous_evangellous

Guest
Maize said:
Oral sex is harmful, as STDs can be transmitted during oral sex. Anal sex is not reserved for gay men, lesbians do it too, and guess what, so do straight folks. I think the heart of this whole issue is homophobia. Striaght men are afraid of gay men. They look like them, they act like them (well most do), they are educated just the same level. Straight men are afraid that if THAT guy could be gay, maybe I could be too, and that scares them to death in our homophobic society. Lesbians aren't seen as big of an issue for some of the other reasons stated here already; men think of two women together is erotic, they are not threatened by gay women and usually look at them as a woman who just needs a good man to "turn her straight" (I kid you not, I've heard this one myself).

Anyway, that's some more of my thoughts on this.....
Maize,
I was assuming covanent relationships. In a committed relationship, the dangers of STDs are greatly reduced, especially with condoms. Anal sex is always destructive, whether in heterosexual or homosexual contexts. However, oral sex is not destructive in and of itself, and that was my point in why male sexuality and female sexuality are viewed differently IMO.

EDIT: Anal sex among lesbians is not widely known, and obviously anal sex is not glorified in any other section of the popolation as it is among gay men. I don't want to imagine how they do that :D
 

Prima

Well-Known Member
Yes, and that has no bearing on my point. I conclude that heterosexual anal sex is harmful in the same logic: it is nothing like the vagina and causes harm.
Define 'harmful' Anal sex is not any more harmful than heterosexual (vaginal) sex is.

And how is oral sex not harmful? you can get as many STIs from oral sex as you can from heterosexual.

I won't tell you, either... *shifty eyes*
 

Green Gaia

Veteran Member
I don't agree with you that anal sex is "glorified" among gay men, rather than it is harped upon by those who oppose gay men being together and assume that anal sex is all gay men do.
 

Feathers in Hair

World's Tallest Hobbit
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I tend to agree that it's because the male gender tends to dominate pop culture. To generalize horribly, a fellow who enjoys the idea of two women kissing is normally considered to have a healthy view of sex. A woman who enjoys the idea of two men kissing is considered (by some) perverted and odd.

While I applaud that lesbians have finally been shown in commited, healthy relationships on TV, I think we'll have come a lot further when gay men can be shown in the same light.
 

Lycan

Preternatural
EDIT: Anal sex among lesbians is not widely known, and obviously anal sex is not glorified in any other section of the popolation as it is among gay men.
How is anal sex glorified?
 
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