Homosexuality

[Curious_Kitty]

I know that it's more acceptable in pagan religions, but just how is Homosexuality percieved in Christian-Wicca or even just plain Wicca?

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Believe it or not, I was driving this morning and wondering this same thing. Looks like you saved me the trouble of posting it. So...how about it? How do you Christian Wiccans feel in general about homosexuality?

 

[Gentoo]

From what I've read, homosexuality is still a hot button issue in Wicca. And mostly decided individually.

 

[AlsoAnima]

I always assumed that all sensible people felt there wasn't anything wrong with homosexuality. And I've never read a Wiccan book that didn't openly embrace it.

 

[Metalic Wings]

I always had the same notion: that Wiccans would openly accept homosexuality.

Even though I don't know much of the religion, that would be my first assumtion.

 

[te_lanus]

For me, each one has it's own right to live, who are we to judge them for that.

 

[Curious_Kitty]

The wiccans do seem to accept it more readily than most christians. Do you think prejudices like this keep with a person when combining the religious outlooks?

 

[ecnal]

I'm not strictly a Christian Wiccan, I listed shakti as my religion, but basically I worship the Goddess wherever I find Her. On the subject of homosexuality, beyond the stigma of just being "not normal" in some people's eyes, the anti-homosexual religious stigma stems mostly from Jewish purity laws in the Old Testament, which Jesus made a hobby of breaking most of quite frequently. All thinking Christians, Wiccans, Christian Wiccans, and everyone else should accept & move on, an' that it harm none, do what thou wilt.

 

[benjaminvende]

God accept all the people; homosexuality is not a problem

 

[enchanted_one1975]

God accept all the people; homosexuality is not a problem

According to the Christian bible, He does not. That seems to be the area for debate as Christian Wicca is a combination of both Christianity and Wicca.

 

[EverChanging]

I always thought Wiccans accepted homosexuality in general. My neo-pagan friends are very accepting of bisexuality and homosexuality, and one of them is transgendered (though he is married to a woman.)

As for the Bible, it says little about homosexuality, and there is a strong case that the most problematic passage, Romans 1, has lost much in translation and in our ignorance of the original cultural and historical context. What the Bible Really Says About Homosexuality, a book written by a Catholic priest (and available on Amazon) explains this in much more depth than I can. This priest has really risked his career writing such a book.

 

[laughing marmot]

Well, Jesus shot the purity laws full of holes (figuratively speaking), & I take everything Paul said with a grain of sand (also figuratively speaking). Paul wrote down some serious spiritual truths, but he also had some opinions that were not neccessarily those of Jesus. Many times, when Paul was giving his opinion, he prefaced it as such, but maybe not every time. The Bible is a great & holy book, but when people read it like a factual textbook, to be taken literally, they come up with some goofy, & sometimes dangerous views.

Not all Christians are Pauline homophobes. If Christian Wiccans are at a loss for which side of the fence to fall off on this issue, fall into love, friends.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

If Christian Wiccans are at a loss for which side of the fence to fall off on this issue, fall into love, friends.

That's the best advice I have heard on the topic of homosexuality so far. I don't know of anyone that has broken up with his boyfriend because the church said he had to. :no: Follow your heart!

 

[Alceste]

Never met a wiccan with any concerns about homosexuality. From what I understand, wiccan "rules" are really simple: anything you do, good or evil, is returned three times over. That's pretty much it - deciding what is meant by "good" and "evil" is up to you. Apparently.

 

[enchanted_one1975]

Never met a wiccan with any concerns about homosexuality. From what I understand, wiccan "rules" are really simple: anything you do, good or evil, is returned three times over. That's pretty much it - deciding what is meant by "good" and "evil" is up to you. Apparently.

That's the rule of Karma, no matter what one's religion is. The most important Wiccan rule is the last line of the Wiccan Rede and can be seen in my signature:

ent: An it harm none, do as you will.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Apparently Gardner himself had some homophobic views: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_issues_and_Wicca#Anti-homosexuality

And a fellow named Mark Ventimiglia who acted as a leader in the Seax-Wica tradition: No Homophobes In Seax-Wica Petition

However, the overall spirit is definitely one of acceptance. While I'm not Christian Wicca per se, I do use both Neo-pagan and Christian symbolism in my spiritual exploration. What I find complimentary in them is the forgiving ideals of Christianity and the interconnectedness of Nature in Neo-paganism.

 

[Alceste]

That's the rule of Karma, no matter what one's religion is. The most important Wiccan rule is the last line of the Wiccan Rede and can be seen in my signature:

ent: An it harm none, do as you will.

I stand corrected. I think my friend's literature had something about the 3 times yada yada yada. I recall Crowley wrote "do as thou wilt shall be the whole of the law", but he was a creepy cat, IMO.

 

[EverChanging]

Well, Jesus shot the purity laws full of holes (figuratively speaking), & I take everything Paul said with a grain of sand (also figuratively speaking). Paul wrote down some serious spiritual truths, but he also had some opinions that were not neccessarily those of Jesus. Many times, when Paul was giving his opinion, he prefaced it as such, but maybe not every time. The Bible is a great & holy book, but when people read it like a factual textbook, to be taken literally, they come up with some goofy, & sometimes dangerous views.

Not all Christians are Pauline homophobes. If Christian Wiccans are at a loss for which side of the fence to fall off on this issue, fall into love, friends.

Very insightful and well said.

 

[Moonstone]

Isn't Christianity supposed to be all about love? God is supposed to love everyone. I can't imagine why Wicca would condemn homosexuality either, but I'm not a Wiccan so I don't know.
I say live & let live..homosexuality doesn't affect me so why should I have a problem with it?
-Princess Dot

 

[AlsoAnima]

According to the Christian bible, He does not. That seems to be the area for debate as Christian Wicca is a combination of both Christianity and Wicca.

You must be reading the wrong Christian Bible then.