Honest Discussion By A Pro-Gun Advocate On Firearm Laws

[Revoltingest]

You gave me one proposal with no detail and I agreed with it. How did you expect me to respond to something as nonsensical as "You didn't address any of my proposals,"?

I've said more.
But I've said enuf.
We're not getting anywhere.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Yet you never tempered the rate of fire with your supposed knowledge you went right with the hyperbole.

so did you, and it was you I was responding to. And now that the ridiculousness of your claim is exposed, you're trying to change focus.

Gang can be replaced with multiple attackers without any gang association.

My comment stands. That's a realistic scenario in a self defence hypothetical. It's certainly a common enough occurence to justify unrestricted large magazines on semi-auto weapons for all and sundry, sure.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Suicide rates:

- US: 12.6 per 100,000 population per year
- Canada: 10.4
- Australia: 10.4
- United Kingdom: 7.4

List of countries by suicide rate - Wikipedia

Stop putting your horrible anti-gun facts into the discussion!

 

[Curious George]

Suicide rates:

- US: 12.6 per 100,000 population per year
- Canada: 10.4
- Australia: 10.4
- United Kingdom: 7.4

List of countries by suicide rate - Wikipedia

Those seem a little cherry picked.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

This is a misleading phrase.
It's not about more, but rather who, when & where.

And yet, cops have a job which doesn't rate among the top 10 most dangerous.
Fishing, farming, roofing & even groundskeeping is more dangerous.
Our problem with cops is cops, their training & their management.
Take away guns...you think they'll change for the better?

I think this is one of the key differences between US cops and cops in other jurisdictions, so yes. Many of the problems with training and management of American cops come from the perception that cops have to be ready for a gun-wielding attacker at all times, which is a consequence of the extreme availability of guns in your country.

You're failing to take into account that we have the right to bear arms.

No, I'm not. You're failing to take in account that your right to bear arms is granted by amendable laws.

Sure, sure...if we could remove all guns from civilians, we could be
better off. But that's not possible.
You're making no useful proposal.
Essentially, you've only complaints about how things are.

Isn't that what the internet is for?

We’re on an Internet forum; we aren’t the ones setting governmental policy.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Those seem a little cherry picked.

I picked them quickly, but with reasons. I tried to pick comparators that were similar to the US in terms of cultural attitudes to suicide and factors that might drive someone to suicide (e.g. war, economic hardship).

... but if you think that other countries are better comparators, please feel free to share which ones and why you chose them. The suicide rates for virtually every country in the world are in the link in my post.

 

[Shad]

so did you, and it was you I was responding to.

Pure nonsense as I brought up the point not you. Now if someone else had pointed that out to the both of us would you have a point. As of yet you have nothing,

And now that the ridiculousness of your claim is exposed, you're trying to change focus.

See the above, read it, and try again.

Remember you accepted my previous point about a high rate of fire in a scenario. You agreed...... There is no changing focus. You can take your foot out of your mouth now.

 

[Revoltingest]

I think this is one of the key differences between US cops and cops in other jurisdictions, so yes. Many of the problems with training and management of American cops come from the perception that cops have to be ready for a gun-wielding attacker at all times, which is a consequence of the extreme availability of guns in your country.

I'd address that with better gun control & training.
And I think increasingly cheap remote presence technology will help.

No, I'm not. You're failing to take in account that your right to bear arms is granted by amendable laws.

I'm well aware of the amendment aspect.
But the political reality is that the 2nd is here to stay...at least for this century.
(Money back guarantee on that forecast.)

Isn't that what the internet is for?

And you do an exceptional job.
I look up to you in that way.

 

[Kangaroo Feathers]

Pure nonsense as I brought up the point not you. Now if someone else had pointed that out to the both of us would you have a point. As of yet you have nothing,





See the above, read it, and try again.

Remember you accepted my previous point about a high rate of fire in a scenario. You agreed...... There is no changing focus. You can take your foot out of your mouth now.

Read back through the thread. You're mistaking me for someone else.

 

[Shad]

Read back through the thread. You're mistaking me for someone else.

Nope. My posts were directed at you.