Have you ever been to the "on the issues" site ? That should answer all your questions, unless you live in the dark ages.
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Hope in Trump
- Thread starter Monk Of Reason
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Have you ever been to the "on the issues" site ? That should answer all your questions, unless you live in the dark ages.
Kuzcotopia
If you can read this, you are as lucky as I am.
You've convinced me. There is much less cause to be hopeful.
Monk Of Reason
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Don't do that! Now I'll have to play devil's advocate for the other side!
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
He is very anti-LBGT and he has tried to make it legal legislation that my civil liberties are beneath religious bigotry. And not only LBGT, he's also anti-science, to the point he took it upon himself to challenge and "disprove" evolution before Congress.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I vote for you! And I'm going to bus myself around to vote for you a hundred times. And I'll steal identities to vote for you a thousand more times. And then I'll cast votes as Mickey, Goofy, Donald, Minny, and Daisy.
And you should know, Metal is not spam, but rather what is more properly known as "gospel music." Hail Satan! Hail Maynard James Keenan! Hail Lemmy!
Part of me wishes this was in the "Liberals Only" part of the forum, because I think the flip flopping is going to be more from Liberals than from Trump. If you understood "rip up Iran Deal" as he will have piece of paper with deal on it in front of him, and he'll literally rip it up, then I dunno, you're naive? He'll make the deal different, which won't be easy, but will be supported by lots of Pubs who are now in power. With Obamacare, if he, or any Pub were going to replace it, did you think he (or they) would not borrow anything from that Act? No seriously, did you really think that's what repeal meant, when he said that? I think all conservative types took it as he'll get rid of the mandate and probably anything that violates religious sensibilities. That and more. To do anything would be amending it, and easier to accomplish, but getting rid of mandate might take repeal.
But he'll surely do things that please Dems. Not all of them, but some of them, some of the time. Like when Obama came in on coattails of anti-war, and then become longest running wartime POTUS, that didn't upset Pubs, other than his policies around how soldiers are to engage with enemy combatants and stuff like that.
Also possible Trump is saying things to quell protests right now. I'd take that into account.
But really, Pubs knew the moment primaries ended that we were likely getting a flip flopper yet a candidate that is our only hope to defeat Hillary. A candidate that on certain core issues is aligned with our beliefs, and on other items is out of step with what at least some of us believe. If he tackles immigration aggressively, cuts taxes, repeals mandate in Obamacare, creates better growth in the economy, emphasizes national security / defeats ISIS on his watch, re-establishes certain religious freedoms and keeps abortion rights at bay, I'm thinking most conservative types will be quite pleased.
But he'll surely do things that please Dems. Not all of them, but some of them, some of the time. Like when Obama came in on coattails of anti-war, and then become longest running wartime POTUS, that didn't upset Pubs, other than his policies around how soldiers are to engage with enemy combatants and stuff like that.
Also possible Trump is saying things to quell protests right now. I'd take that into account.
But really, Pubs knew the moment primaries ended that we were likely getting a flip flopper yet a candidate that is our only hope to defeat Hillary. A candidate that on certain core issues is aligned with our beliefs, and on other items is out of step with what at least some of us believe. If he tackles immigration aggressively, cuts taxes, repeals mandate in Obamacare, creates better growth in the economy, emphasizes national security / defeats ISIS on his watch, re-establishes certain religious freedoms and keeps abortion rights at bay, I'm thinking most conservative types will be quite pleased.
Let me remind everyone....
It always has.
It always will.
Things have been worse...much worse.
We've always had to work to get & keep rights.
That will never stop.
So don't worry.....get to work.
And be optimistic...it's good for you.
Now, somebody give somebody else a hug....just not me.
http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Cm6reI9PaGU/T_71aBqTc7I/AAAAAAAAB8Y/fZPrUKDtDsA/s1600/****+happens.jpg
It always will.
Things have been worse...much worse.
We've always had to work to get & keep rights.
That will never stop.
So don't worry.....get to work.
And be optimistic...it's good for you.
Now, somebody give somebody else a hug....just not me.
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
It's not an argument of semantics, as amending the bill will be far much easier than scrapping it and replacing it (scrapping it won't be easy given the Reps slim majority in Senate, but replacing it will be the very difficult part).
What I am wondering is will it still be referred to as "Obamacare" four years from now?
Shadow Wolf
Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
I doubt it. We don't even think of it as "Romneycare," even though that was the first introduction of the Dutch system in America.
sandycreekboy
New Member
im glad to see trump backpeddling but hes still a major threat
Well, of course he is!
Even we Trump voters warned ya'll about this.
It's like picking a hornets' next over a grizzly bear as a pet.
It might be safer, but it's far from safe.
No offense intended, @Wu Wei
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
None taken, but if you could change that hornets nest to a honey bee hive it would be much appreciated
No......I don't want half of my analogy to eat the other half.
Wu Wei
ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
OK, now that is offensive
sandycreekboy
New Member
none taken at all you have a good day
? Political Ponerology - Andrew M. Lobaczewski
Monk Of Reason
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Care to elaborate?