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House votes to hold US attorney general in contempt over Mueller subpoena

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Tis fascinating how pro-Trumpettes sound just like anti-Trumpettes.
The only difference is the direction of their epithets.
I have noted the similarity in the behavior of polar opposites for years. One, maybe two, remind me of opinions. However, in regards to Trump, I am going to subjectively favor those that are on the correct side.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
I have noted the similarity in the behavior of polar opposites for years. One, maybe two, remind me of opinions. However, in regards to Trump, I am going to subjectively favor those that are on the correct side.
One of them is correct?
I'd think that blind faith in or blind opposition to him would both be failed perspectives.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Playing at being willfully obtuse isn't producing quotes from the Mueller report saying what you claim it says, but don't let me stop you digging that hole.

I already linked a video with Senators discussing this topic from the Mueller report. You still chose to ignore it, again that is on you.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
At no point in that video does Jim Jordan quote the Mueller Report. Thank you very much for wasting 5 minutes of my time.

Have you actually read the Mueller report for yourself? If not, you should.

You didn't watch it then. Because around 45 seconds in he starts to talk about it then continues it throughout the rest of the video.

I get it honesty is not your forte'. But you can't bluff you way out of something when the facts is in front of everyone clearly to see.
 

Kangaroo Feathers

Yea, it is written in the Book of Cyril...
At no point in that video does Jim Jordan quote the Mueller Report. Thank you very much for wasting 5 minutes of my time.
Did you expect anything else? That's Usual Suspect 101, make a ridiculous claim, then provide a link, any link at all, and feign indignation when people won't click it, right up until the point someone DOES click it, and confirms that the link doesn't remotely support the earlier claim, or even tangentially relate to it in most cases, at which point the Usual Suspect will employ a new dodge, but absolutely will not under any circumstances acknowledge that their link was bogus, indeed, in most cases they'll refuse to even engage with any mention of the link or earlier claim again.
 
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Daemon Sophic

Avatar in flux
Obviously you don't understand law. Barr cannot produce the unredacted report because unredacted it has grand jury testimony on it. This is illegal for Barr to do.
No, it is you who don’t understand law. Congress has full privileges to see high security, unredacted reports.
The press keeps conflating “releasing to Congress” and “releasing to the public”. :rolleyes: They are not the same.
The claim that Congress cannot be allowed to see the FULL report is as spurious as claiming that Trump cannot release his tax returns because he is being audited.
BTW that is still the sniveling coward’s position. o_O

You are correct about that. The former Democratic President abused his power to help his fellow Democratic Presidtial campaign nominee (Hillary) by spying on her competition (Trump) illegally. Then because they lost the election, and not able to cover it up, tried to use the sitting President as a patsy to cover their own conspiracy and the breaking of many civil rights. Further made worse by Congress for instructing A.G. Barr to commit a felony by releasing unredacted grand jury testimony, then threatening him with contempt for refusing to break the law, which is obstruction of justice.

There is a crisis alright. The evidence in the Mueller report list every bit of it as well.
Good! I’m glad that you are fully onboard with release of the completely unredacted report to Congress as allowed by the law. :)
Unless you’re a sniveling coward troll, just here to incite nausea and post pointless trash. :eek: But......you’re not those things.
You sir, are clearly an informed and concerned US citizen. Right? So you want it released, and recognize release of the unredacted full Mueller report is the best thing for our nation and for Trump. Yay teamwork!
BREAKING NEWS!!!!
Attorney General Eric Holder held in contempt of Congress
See the following article for this breaking news.
Holder held in contempt



Opps my bad it isn't 2012 is it?
Very good. So now there is legal precedent. All the better to make the process go .......smoothly.
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Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Congress has full privileges to see high security, unredacted reports.

No they don't lol or else it wouldn't have been redacted to begin with. You are just making up stuff now. Not surprising its par for the course lately.

Good! I’m glad that you are fully onboard with release of the completely unredacted report to Congress as allowed by the law.

Again your mistaken. Barr cannot release grand jury testimony. It is illegal. Though it doesn't matter anymore. Executive privilege solved that problem. Guess all yall will just have to s.t.f.u! :D
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
One of them is correct?
I'd think that blind faith in or blind opposition to him would both be failed perspectives.
When you put it like that, it makes it too difficult for me to come up with something, especially when I am in such strong agreement with your latter statement.

Of course, this all may rest on just how blind members of one or the other side is, whether criticism is directed to only or mostly negative or positive traits expressed by Trump or if they have some sound argument for their criticism.

When I first thought to respond to you, my tongue was partway in my cheek. But, in all seriousness, I have developed some interest in blind followers and the fact that the same sort of people exist at either extreme. And when I say the same people, I mean that they are very much alike, but with emphasis on different ideologies. Which is how I interpreted your statement.

In defense of those here, it may be that some with legitimate and knowledgeable opinions may get swept up in the net of "blind support" or have otherwise sound reasoning for their position and include elements associated with "blind support". Nobody is perfect.

in an aside, I was doing one of those internet tests to determine where one lands on the political spectrum and it put me in libertarian territory. It could be a poor test. I really never saw myself as a libertarian, though I must recognize some affinity.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Perhaps. I am still either unconvinced or in some kind of denial. Not sure which.

That second clip reminded me of a dream I have had, except mine had several Elvises (Elvi? What is the plural of Elvis?) in it. What is that from?

Have you read the book "The Science of Liberty" by Timothy Ferris? It was within those pages that my libertarian affinity first came to my attention.
 

fantome profane

Anti-Woke = Anti-Justice
Premium Member
You didn't watch it then. Because around 45 seconds in he starts to talk about it then continues it throughout the rest of the video.

I get it honesty is not your forte'. But you can't bluff you way out of something when the facts is in front of everyone clearly to see.
Then just tell me what he says. Give me just one sentence that comes out of his mouth in that video that is a quote from the Mueller Report. That should not be too hard.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Then just tell me what he says. Give me just one sentence that comes out of his mouth in that video that is a quote from the Mueller Report. That should not be too hard.

I'm not yo momma. If you want to be spoon fed seek her out.
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Perhaps. I am still either unconvinced or in some kind of denial. Not sure which.

That second clip reminded me of a dream I have had, except mine had several Elvises (Elvi? What is the plural of Elvis?) in it. What is that from?

Have you read the book "The Science of Liberty" by Timothy Ferris? It was within those pages that my libertarian affinity first came to my attention.
An affinity is wonderful.
No need to go full blown libertarian for me.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
An affinity is wonderful.
No need to go full blown libertarian for me.
Looking back, I have a number of noteworthy ancestors that could probably be said to have an affinity for liberty as well.

Who knows, I try to maintain an open mind and you never know where life may lead. There were some other other affinities identified as well. Some equally surprising and some pretty much expected. It is difficult to say how valid such tests are and whether anything they report is meaningful. Still, it is more where I was placed in the libertarian camp and not really a surprise for the known affinity.

What do you guys serve at meetings?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Looking back, I have a number of noteworthy ancestors that could probably be said to have an affinity for liberty as well.

Who knows, I try to maintain an open mind and you never know where life may lead. There were some other other affinities identified as well. Some equally surprising and some pretty much expected. It is difficult to say how valid such tests are and whether anything they report is meaningful. Still, it is more where I was placed in the libertarian camp and not really a surprise for the known affinity.

What do you guys serve at meetings?
The last one I went to was at a bar.
So I guess beer.
 
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