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How about we defund UNRWA ?

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
I ask many questions you avoid to clarify.
The only thing I recall is that you want me to criticize Israel. As I've said several times, there are already plenty of posters on RF criticizing Israel.

Another thing I've answered before and I will answer again, is that I think you and a lot of other posters here are of the opinion that the Jews are 100% to blame for the war in Gaza.

I think the blame is spread around: Hamas and the Islamic Republic certainly share some responsibility. The UN shares a lot of responsibility. UNRWA is partly to blame, and so on.

I think that anyone who imagines that it's 100% because of the Jews is dangerously tunnel-visioned. That opinion guarantees there can never be peace in the ME.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
The only thing I recall is that you want me to criticize Israel. As I've said several times, there are already plenty of posters on RF criticizing Israel.
Do you cricised Israel by thread, there are plenty crime inhuman done by Israel, just choose one
Another thing I've answered before and I will answer again, is that I think you and a lot of other posters here are of the opinion that the Jews are 100% to blame for the war in Gaza.

I think the blame is spread around: Hamas and the Islamic Republic certainly share some responsibility. The UN shares a lot of responsibility. UNRWA is partly to blame, and so on.

I think that anyone who imagines that it's 100% because of the Jews is dangerously tunnel-visioned. That opinion guarantees there can never be peace in the ME.
I never mentioned Jews, i always mentioned zionist or israel regime.
Jews are not all with Israel crimes nor existing.

Despite there are some evil beliefs and agenda motivation the zionists to eliminate Muslims from Palestin. Install instead of them Zionist settlers.

The powerful one who control is always blamed more.
Especially if they are racist regime, and occupation, made clear crimes.
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
Ok, so is Zionism a bad thing in your opinion?
Zionism is bad for Muslims only?

If so, why? How would you compare it to Islamic colonialism or western colonialism?
Each one positive and negative effects on the world.

Muslims had big impact in scientific research before 400 years and more.

If no Algorithm you can't use internet now. And math used by Roman numbers definitely hard
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
Zionism is bad for Muslims only?


Each one positive and negative effects on the world.

Muslims had big impact in scientific research before 400 years and more.

If no Algorithm you can't use internet now. And math used by Roman numbers definitely hard

It's interesting to see such radically different worldviews.

That said, as long as Muslims think "it's all because of the west and Jews", we will never have peace :(
 

Godobeyer

the word "Islam" means "submission" to God
Premium Member
It's interesting to see such radically different worldviews.
It's not different view, it's reality.
Don't tell me there is my reality and your reality.

You probably just adopt Israel view as only fact.
There is channel of Israel's crimes in Telegram.
It's may awakening the humanity, open your eyes the evil of Israel.
That said, as long as Muslims think "it's all because of the west and Jews", we will never have peace :(
After i see Israel accept for cease fire with Hizballah (despite Hezbollah don't have hostages) . Instead of Hamas.
I realize that Israel understand, message, is power of destruction of Hezbollah.

How the hell you can peace racist regime, consider you less human beings than them,killing you and take your land?
 

icehorse

......unaffiliated...... anti-dogmatist
Premium Member
It's not different view, it's reality.
Don't tell me there is my reality and your reality.
Neither of us has all the facts on the war in Gaza. You have your sources of information and I have mine, and they are different. In addition, you interpret the information you receive differently than I do. And on top of all that, we use different contexts to make our conclusions, and changing the context can have a drastic impact on what conclusions people draw.

How the hell you can peace racist regime, consider you less human beings than them,killing you and take your land?
Well I disagree with your conclusion here. But for the sake of discussion, let's say that Israel is a racist regime. What we see almost everywhere else in the Muslim world is racism and misogyny and anti-semitism and homophobia. Do Muslims consider all non-Muslims, and all women, and all Jews, and all homosexuals as "less human beings" ?
 
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