Psalms 22:17 (22:16 in Christian Bibles) For dogs have encompassed me; a company of evil-doers have enclosed me; like a lion, they are at my hands and my feet.
That's when you translate from the original Hebrew, and not from an inferior Greek translation.
I didn't respond to your "casting lots" thing because it's not worth responding to. Psalm 22 is David reporting his feelings under duress. These are things which happened to him. There is no Messianic prophecy here.
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I see, since King David never had people both divide his clothing and gamble for his clothing, it's not a prophecy of Yeshua (or another Mashiach), rather David sort of FELT like people divided his clothing and also gambled for it. Is that what you are saying?
Rather, Yeshua's bloody outer garments, bloodied for our salvation IMHO, were torn up, the good parts of the incredibly expensive
toga picta divided to four soldiers, and the inner robe Yeshua wore, seamless/one-piece, was gambled for, by lot. The
toga picta was otherwise awarded to Caesars and warriors in Roman triumphs on the Capitoline Hill, Mark is appealing to Roman readers that Yeshua is their triumphant King, and not just King of the Jewish people.
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You are claming that Christian English Old Testaments are translated from the Septuagint/Greek? Not so, many come directly from Hebrew to English. However, you've raised a WONDERFUL point:
1) All Christian English translations I've seen use "PIERCED/DUG INTO my wrist/hands and feet". All Jewish translations use "like a LION, they are at my hands and feet".
2) Logical possibilty -- the Christians are
all deceived,
all of their scholars biased,
all of them dizzy with errors in the Septuagint and/or with the kind of pareidolia you've said I have . . . the goyim are just that Jesus-crazy.
3) The word in question is
karah. Let's look at every instance of karah in Tanakh, make them
ALL say "like a lion" instead of "dug, pierced" like the goyim say, and then YOU TELL ME what karah should be translated as in Psalm 22. This took me quite a while this morning, so please read all of them before making a final decision:
And he builded an altar there, and called upon the name of the LORD, and pitched his tent there: and there Isaac's servants [like a lion, not dug or pierced] a well.
My father made me swear, saying, Lo, I die: in my grave which I have [like a lion, not dug or pierced] for me in the land of Canaan, there shalt thou bury me. Now therefore let me go up, I pray thee, and bury my father, and I will come again.
And if a man shall open a pit, or if a man shall [like a lion, not dig or pierce] a pit, and not cover it, and an ox or an *** fall therein;
And if a man shall open a pit, or if a man shall [like a lion, not dig or pierce] a pit, and not cover it, and an ox or an *** fall therein;
And they buried him in his own sepulchres, which he had [like a lion, not dug or pierced] for himself in the city of David, and laid him in the bed which was filled with sweet odours and divers kinds
of spices prepared by the apothecaries' art: and they made a very great burning for him.
Yea, ye overwhelm the fatherless, and ye [like a lion, not dug or pierced]
a pit for your friend.
He [like a lion, not dug or pierced] a pit, and digged it, and is fallen into the ditch
which he made.
For dogs have compassed me: the assembly of the wicked have inclosed me: they [like a lion, not dug or pierced] my hands and my feet.
Sacrifice and offering thou didst not desire; mine ears hast thou opened: [like a lion, not pierced or stabbed] burnt offering and sin offering hast thou not required.
They have prepared a net for my steps; my soul is bowed down: they have [like a lion, not dug or pierced] a pit before me, into the midst whereof they are fallen
themselves. Selah.
That thou mayest give him rest from the days of adversity, until the pit be [like a lion, not dug or pierced] for the wicked.
The proud have [like a lion, not dug or pierced] pits for me, which
are not after thy law.
An ungodly man [like a lion, not digs up] evil: and in his lips
there is as a burning fire.
Whoso [like a lion, not digs] a pit shall fall therein: and he that rolleth a stone, it will return upon him.
Shall evil be recompensed for good? for they have [like a lion, not dug] a pit for my soul. Remember that I stood before thee to speak good for them,
and to turn away thy wrath from them.
Let a cry be heard from their houses, when thou shalt bring a troop suddenly upon them: for they have [like a lion, not dug] a pit to take me, and hid snares for my feet.
Question 1: What would a reasonable person infer is the meaning of
karah in Psalm 22, based on EVERY SINGLE ONE of its other translations/uses?
Question 2: Why do YOU THINK Jews for Judaism and others claim the translation is better rendered "like a lion at my hands and feet"?
Question 3: What would a lion do ONLY at David's Messiah's/hands and feet? Wouldn't a lion go for the torso in the attack (or the head), and then devour the body,
not just the hands and feet?
Question 4: Can you think of related Tanakh scriptures, like "How beautiful on the mountains are the feet of those who bring glad tidings of good things!"? (The gospel is called "the good news!")
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The truth is that Yeshua bled a lot from His hands and feet, and from the crown of thorns on His brow. When Moishe and the people killed the pesach lambs, they used a plant branch to place blood on the doorposts and lintels (where Yeshua's hands and feet bled) and most of the blood of the lamb went to a bowl the leaders of the people placed in front of the door, where Yeshua's blood went).
And of course, Yeshua is the Lion of Judah, so there may be a beautiful play in words in the Messianic Psalm 22.
