How Andrew Tate and the Far Right Made Common Cause with Islamists

[Godobeyer]

Israel has a strange way of showing it’s desire for peace

Is there in history a racist regime want or made peace?

When world fought last racist regime,
German nazi, 60 millions,how about now with more mortal weapons and nuclear.

Same mistakes done, by people"some Jews" whom already suffered by racism/religious idealogy "Nazi"

 

[Kathryn]

It's not big deal to recognize that Israel use collection punishment.
Due to racism religious backgrounds, "The chosen people "

Isn't some scriptures of Torah/Bible permit to killing the children and women during the war, is not that true ?

I don't know but most Christians tend to go with the words of the New Testament.

 

[RestlessSoul]

Is there in history a racist regime want or made peace?

When world fought last racist regime,
German nazi, 60 millions,how about now with more mortal weapons and nuclear.

Same mistakes done, by people"some Jews" whom already suffered by racism/religious idealogy "Nazi"

Yeah, sometimes it seems as though humanity never learns from history.

Wars always end eventually, though. People get tired of all the killing.

 

[Kfox]

No, I’d say that was an absurd comparison.

How is it different?

 

[icehorse]

No, I’d say that was an absurd comparison.

Why?

 

[icehorse]

It's not big deal to recognize that Israel use collection punishment.
Due to racism religious backgrounds, "The chosen people "

Isn't some scriptures of Torah/Bible permit to killing the children and women during the war, is not that true ?

What do you mean "collection punishment"? I would say that one horrible side effects of ALL WARS is that civilians get killed. That's not punishment, that's war, and it's universal, it's not unique to this war.

 

[icehorse]

Is there in history a racist regime want or made peace?

When world fought last racist regime,
German nazi, 60 millions,how about now with more mortal weapons and nuclear.

Same mistakes done, by people"some Jews" whom already suffered by racism/religious idealogy "Nazi"

Over two million Arabs are citizens of Israel, how is that a racist regime?

 

[Godobeyer]

What do you mean "collection punishment"? I would say that one horrible side effects of ALL WARS is that civilians get killed. That's not punishment, that's war, and it's universal, it's not unique to this war.

The war in Gaza is not normal war, collective punishment in all human values, besides killing civilians, they cut food and water and electricity.

 

[icehorse]

The war in Gaza is not normal war, collective punishment in all human values, besides killing civilians, they cut food and water and electricity.

Why do you say it's not a normal war?

 

[Godobeyer]

Over two million Arabs are citizens of Israel, how is that a racist regime?

Yes they live second citizenship.
In jerusalem Israel took Arabs home by force.

Israel police protection jewish settlers while attack arabs.

Take USA involved in Muslim countries, so since USA good with most of Arab countries we should not critize USA about invade Iraq and Vietnam support genocide in Gaza?
Hope you understand my last point.

 

[Godobeyer]

Why do you say it's not a normal war?

In normal war both sides avoid collective punishment, civilians as much they can, as Russia and Ukraine now.


It's not normal war because, collective punishment to Palestinians, northen Gaza no food no water for 15 days.

 

[icehorse]

Yes they live second citizenship.
In jerusalem Israel took Arabs home by force.

Israel police protection jewish settlers while attack arabs.

Take USA involved in Muslim countries, so since USA good with most of Arab countries we should not critize USA about invade Iraq and Vietnam support genocide in Gaza?
Hope you understand my last point.

I think the video you linked to demonstrates the opposite of what you're claiming. For example, across the world, it's almost always the case that if you don't speak the language of the land, you hurt your own economic opportunities.

It strikes me that the concerns brought up in this video were relatively minor when compared to any other society in the ME. Can you name a ME country which is even close to being as multi-cultural as Israel?

 

[icehorse]

In normal war both sides avoid collective punishment, civilians as much they can, as Russia and Ukraine now.


It's not normal war because, collective punishment to Palestinians, northen Gaza no food no water for 15 days.

That's simply not the case. In WW II millions of civilians were killed.

War always sucks. Civilians always get killed. This war is no different. In fact, urban warfare tends to be the hardest on civilians, and this urban war is better than most in terms of minimizing civilian casualties.

 

[Godobeyer]

That's simply not the case. In WW II millions of civilians were killed.

War always sucks. Civilians always get killed. This war is no different. In fact, urban warfare tends to be the hardest on civilians, and this urban war is better than most in terms of minimizing civilian casualties.

Ok I understand your point since it's war, it's ok to killl civilians.

But is ok to cut them food and water and electricity too?

It's ok to bomb tents and hospitals?

 

[Kfox]

The war in Gaza is not normal war, collective punishment in all human values, besides killing civilians, they cut food and water and electricity.

That's a drop in the bucket when compared to what the Russians did in Berlin during WW-2

 

[icehorse]

Ok I understand your point since it's war, it's ok to killl civilians.

But is ok to cut them food and water and electricity too?

It's ok to bomb tents and hospitals?

What's your definition of a "hospital"? Mine is a place to help sick people, right?

But to Hamas, a hospital is a place to store weapons because they know westerners don't like to bomb hospitals. But at the beginning of the war, Gaza had dozens of "hospitals". But most of them were just places to store weapons or hide terrorist tunnels.

Hamas uses many buildings and tents the same way. They are used to hide weapons and tunnels, they are not used to protect civilians

 

[Godobeyer]

I think the video you linked to demonstrates the opposite of what you're claiming. For example, across the world, it's almost always the case that if you don't speak the language of the land, you hurt your own economic opportunities.

It strikes me that the concerns brought up in this video were relatively minor when compared to any other society in the ME. Can you name a ME country which is even close to being as multi-cultural as Israel?

Maybe you didn't watch it.

It's not secret that Israeli Arabs are suffering under Israel regime especially in Jerusalem.

Is multi cultural of Israel give them the righr to do whatever they want?

Lebanon not multi culture enough?

 

[Godobeyer]

What's your definition of a "hospital"? Mine is a place to help sick people, right?

But to Hamas, a hospital is a place to store weapons because they know westerners don't like to bomb hospitals. But at the beginning of the war, Gaza had dozens of "hospitals". But most of them were just places to store weapons or hide terrorist tunnels.

Hamas uses many buildings and tents the same way. They are used to hide weapons and tunnels, they are not used to protect civilians

You take story of Israel as fact about hospital ?
So you net pro Israel
Whatever they do, you with them.

 

[Godobeyer]

That's a drop in the bucket when compared to what the Russians did in Berlin during WW-2

According to @icehorse Palestinians treated in WW2 war rules.

 

[icehorse]

Maybe you didn't watch it.

It's not secret that Israeli Arabs are suffering under Israel regime especially in Jerusalem.

Is multi cultural of Israel give them the righr to do whatever they want?

Lebanon not multi culture enough?

I did watch it. I heard only about minor problems, hardly a "racism regime". Most multicultural societies have similar problems.

I think that Lebanon used to be better, but Hezbollah has turned Lebanon into a sad place indeed.