Not at all, please don't guess what's in my mind
Do you disagree with the claim that Hamas built tunnels under hospitals?
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How Andrew Tate and the Far Right Made Common Cause with Islamists
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Do you disagree with the claim that Hamas built tunnels under hospitals?
Across the world, urban wars are very different than wars like in the Ukraine or WW II. As I understand it, the war in Gaza is slightly less horrible for civilians than other modern urban warfare. It still sucks, but war sucks.
Ukraine is not punishment collective, it's unfair to compare to Gaza.
I know Palestinians are in WWII.
I guess you anti Palestinian and pro Israel.Not at all, please don't guess what's in my mind
I am wrong?
You who agree with Israel claims ?
Let's don't forget 40 beheaded babies.
I remember in beginning of war Israel killed 500 persons by bomb hospital.
But they forget Hamas rockets not highly explosion
Denying that Israel is racist apartheid regime. It's same to me that light don't come from sun.
UN report about Israel apartheid
Region used to better if Israel regime, remove or turn to real just peace.
But i don't recall that apartheid regime, had it's intern change, except south africa
Yes, agreed. Gaza is urban warfare, Ukraine mostly is not.
You are wrong.
I am anti-Islamist and anti-terrorist. I would be very, very happy to see Hamas removed and let the world rebuild Gaza for peaceful Palestinians to live in. But we cannot allow Islamists to be in charge, we can see how badly that goes if we look around the ME. For example Iran is run by Islamists, and most Iranians do not like that.
I do not trust the UN, they are corrupted by Islamists.
As for the region being better without Israel, I think you would have a difficult argument to prove their.
If the ME is so good, why don't people want to move there? Instead we see everyone wants to leave the ME.
RestlessSoul
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Maybe as an American, you genuinely don’t realise the extent of human suffering in the Middle East, because your nation’s media isn’t reporting it to you. I’m going to give you and others the benefit of the doubt, and assume that’s why so many of you are able to try and justify the senseless slaughter of innocent civilians perpetrated daily by the IDF. But you really need to educate yourselves
‘Cut off from the world’: Israel attacks besieged northern Gaza
This crazy and beyond than pro Israel.
So you don't trust UN or anyone critise israel!!
Sorry this worship, not defend.
There are thousands of Years ME without Israel, the wars didn't stop, the people turn it to Hell land
All palestinians refugees wants to back to their homes.
They had right to back to ther homes ?
No,am not wrong,the extension is hidden.
Whatever can't recognize the pain that Palestinians suffer by this racist criminal regime. You are just biased.
Anti terrorism? anyone who don't consider Israel as terrorism state, just check his honesty and his humanity, it's level low and blind mind from reality.
Can't you add anti racist and apartheid regime and anti occupation,which are the main problem ?
Or these words doesn't exist in your dictionary?
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Can you explain how you come to the conclusion that there is significant "senseless slaughter of innocent civilians"? To be clear, we all know that there are some events in war that are inexcusable. That's always true.
But the way I'm reading your post, it sounds like you're saying the IDF is consistently and deliberately killing civilians?
For years now the UN appears to be heavily dominated by the OIC. This might be hard for you to see, because you probably agree with the OIC, but non-Muslims do not agree.
I'm not sure I understand you here, it sounds like you're agreeing with me?
When you start a war and lose, you no longer have a right to what you once had. Arabs have started many wars against Israel.
I do recognize the pain the Palestinians are suffering. And the Ukrainians, and everyone who is at war.
I will say this again, WAR SUCKS! But IMO the UN allowed this war to happen and Hamas started it. Ultimately I believe the blood of Palestinians is on the hands of the UN.
Since you see UN is biased and Israel is good guy, i have nothing to say.
We rarely on agreement, the world and ME is far better without Israel regime.
The world accepted German nazi in WW1,later the humans paid the price of adopted evil between them.
First who start a war against Palestinians is Israel. By many massacres.
So Arabs declared war.
With Israel Rights can taken only by war and blood.
So Palestinians should fight for their rights.
Palestinians blood is only on Israel and USA.
UN authority is disabled by USA veto, in beginning,All world vote for cease fire, to stop blood by the monsters IDF.USA used veto.
then USA feel shame. Didn't vote against. Nor favor.
USA is just following Israel wishes and had big responsiblity on Palestinians blood.
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RestlessSoul
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Well of course the IDF are consistently and indiscriminately killing civilians.
More women and children killed in Gaza by Israeli military than any other recent conflict in a single year – Oxfam | Oxfam International
teage
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It seems there is something about this Yahweh character that makes ppl want to kill each other. (Christians, Muslim, Jews)
How Andrew Tate and the Far Right Made Common Cause with Islamists
Western far-right personalities are carving out a new form of conservatism, characterized by an admiring attitude to Islam. Growing unity between conservative Muslims and Christians, and between disaffected young men in both the West and the Middle East, may yet have significant effects on U.S...newlinesmag.com
In America a lot of Muslims are siding with Trump because they agree with him on some social issues. But what this hi-lights this scarry convergence of extremists that's coming out of the woodwork.
Muslims siding with social conservatives because they are "anti-woke" feels like a they are just taking personal culture wars and trying to force them on Americans. Ever hear of the expression "Y'all Qaeda"? I think there's little difference between your average bigoted southerner and your average cave-dwelling fundamentalist in afghanistan. Don't even get me started on how many Republicans have started to defend the CCP just to “own the libs”—it’s utterly absurd! I mean guess where wannabe-dictator trump showed up once he was rightfully banned from every social media in the US - TikTok.
In other word's the CCP controlled TikTok is the one place that trump feels at home and one place where he is given a platform because they know he's bad for America.
A few pages back I said that I think you're sincere, and I know that I'm sincere. And I wondered whether we could explore how it is that we get such different information. It's clear that your sources of information tell very different stories than my sources.
I suspect the truth is somewhere in the middle, and I'm willing to explore that with you. But if you don't want to do that, I understand, and I'll just end this exchange for now. Because we're right back to shouting at each other using different sources of information, and we've seen that that gets us nowhere.
I noticed in that report that Islamism and terrorism were never mentioned. It also never discussed what percentage of Palestinians support Hamas. There comes a point where a so-called "civilian" isn't really a civilian any more. Here's a video of a short speech from one of Hamas's leader explaining how Hamas is intentionally putting Palestinians in harm's way. This context must absolutely be a part of the discussion:
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