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I read everything you said. I dont believe in god so this is purely an objective point of view (and I can only go by what you all posts since you have many sacred text and academic articles)
So you're an outsider too, commenting? Hmmmm
Peace
1. Peace can only happen when everyone agrees with each other. Since your foundation is god, there can be no peace
Baha'is are told to strive for unanimity but the majority is still the voice of God. The Veto is proof pure unanimity can backfire. Since when has believing in God become a prerequisite for peace? No democracy could function on unanimity.
2. Peace looks not only at similarities but does not try to compromise our differences of another persons religion.
Therefore, if you and I were to develop peace as you defined, I would either A. Have to believe in god or B. You do not believe in god. The common foundation in your faith is god. Without god, how can you relate to any religion you want to have peace with.
Again. Whoever said belief in God was a prerequisite to peace? There is no such law.
Goals
1. Your goals are fine. Im not saying they are wrong. Its about the other stuff.
I must pinch myself. Did we actually pass the goal test?
1. Since Buddhism talks nothing about a creator, how can he be a part of your religion? Not from your perspective but from a buddhist.
Many Buddhists have become Baha'is so it might have something to do with Buddhist prophecies. When I was in Burma, Buddhists were very aware that a Buddha was due and loved the Writings of Baha'u'llah.
2. Hinduism has more than one god. Vishnu is one of three creators. Krishna is a god too and incarnation. Your religion incorporates Krishna.
Yes I know. We believe in Krishna but not as God.
3. What I was interested in, Lukumi African religion has only one god/creator. There are other one-creator religions.
It sounds very interesting.
1. Christianity has an image of god (probably the only creator-religion that does represent god in physical form)
In the Bible it says God is Spirit and to worship Him in spirit.
24 God is spirit, and his worshipers must worship in the Spirit and in truth.”
2. Wait. It makes more sense from your point of view if god sent The Buddha. The Buddha cant talk about something he is ignorant to. Thats illogical not only religiously but realistically.
Buddha did refer to an 'unborn an uncreated'. He could have meant God. We believe He did.
You said throw away traditions etc posts back. Pages back. Its one thing to look at someone elses water across the see, a whole nother to swim in their water with the goal to save people you think are drowning even though you dont own the land and water your in.
Throw away? I love traditions, customs and culture so I was probably meaning things like Holy War or superstitions.
1. I wish other religious can reply to this. If it is true, it has to be in their belief system.
2. If its just your belief, using other religious founders is an insult unless they agree
I can show you all the verse numbers and passages of the Holy Books if you don't believe me. They are definitely there.
1. Mutual agreement if making world peace requires compromise. Its not a one-way situation. Thats why there is no world peace. No one wants to compromise their beliefs.
World peace hasn't worked because man doesn't have thr wisdom to know how to do it. He's tried his ways and only created ware. It's time to step aside and give God's ways a go.
Because we exist way before the founders (those you acknowledge) existed. His existence isnt a cure for peace. Its between people living now, today. The only few things off about bahai is the interpreting of other religions. Your goal and beliefs are yours only.
Thats like two married people arguing and you, way out of nowhere from another country tell us about god, founders, and how they are there to fix our problems rather than asking us.
It's more like a patient on his death need and an All Knowing Physician turns up with th cure. You'd have to be crazy to refuse treatment.
1. This is your belief. Do you see how you are using other religjons within your own?
2. Why dont you take other peoples faith and correction into consideration if you want to say these religions exist in yours?
That is not world peace. Thats you vs. Them. Change your perspective, then you can see my point of view.
The current religions have had enough time to bring peace. We've had war after war with almost no respite. They've had two chances to destroy humanity and I don't think God, in His wisdom and compassion wants to allow them to nuke ourselves into oblivion so my understanding is He's making changes and raising up a generation of people that won't compromise on love but spread it all over the world.
What happened to all the religions that were supposed to spread love and justice all over the world? They ended up going to war against each other. Th crusades, the Inquisition. So many needless wars. Do we need religion if wars are thr result?
Bahaullah isnt god. What does god say on this?
The word 'Say' means God is telling Baha'u'llah to say that He, God, is the One that does whatever He wants with His creation and He direst want war anymore but peace.
You vs. Them perspective.
If god respected his creatiom, he would let them build world peace among their given TLCs. Without that, that is not world peace...
We've had our chance and blown it.
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