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How can atheists explain precognitive dreams?

sovietchild

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So your basically saying: "I don't know anything about the subject so I'm going to use my ignorance on it to believe whatever I want about it."

I hope this is not the case, but you seem to be indicating that it is.

Actually, I didn't know atheist believed in predestination.
 

columbus

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Actually, I didn't know atheist believed in predestination.
Something I have noticed about human history and the pursuit of knowledge is this.
Many times we find out that there is not only more than we know, there is more than we can know at any given time. This process of learning is still going on and I fully expect that humans will keep on discovering unimaginable wonderful new things. Possibly in the area of pre-cognition, who knows.

If anything will arrest that progress, it is people like you making claims like you did in the OP. As long as the overwhelming majority of incidents are easily attributable to an ordinary person who wants to believe that they have semi-magical powers of pre-cognition the noise will drown out whatever signal might be there.
Tom
 

ArtieE

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No, I don't think I told anyone about the dream. Believe it or not, I also had a dream I believe was about Somali plane Daallo Airlines passenger sucked out of jet was a suicide bomber, claim investigators | Daily Mail Online In my dream I was on the back of the plane and something blow up, there was a hole and we were going down.
Sovietchild, if you have reliable detailed precognitive dreams it is your moral duty to report to the authorities for tests. If you can predict major accidents reliably maybe we can prevent them from happening in the first place and save an untold number of lives. It is also very important that you submit yourself to scientific studies so we can try to determine what exactly is going on with you and maybe replicate it.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Sovietchild, if you have reliable detailed precognitive dreams it is your moral duty to report to the authorities for tests. If you can predict major accidents reliably maybe we can prevent them from happening in the first place and save an untold number of lives. It is also very important that you submit yourself to scientific studies so we can try to determine what exactly is going on with you and maybe replicate it.

No way! Is that so? :)
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
No way! Is that so? :)
Of course it is. You are the one having these dreams so you have the responsibility of putting them to good use to save lives. Just search for "precognition airplane accidents" in Google and you'll find plenty of examples.

People like you should join forces in research programs so scientists can study your brain activity while you sleep and try to pinpoint exactly what happens in your brains when you are having these dreams. You could register when the dreams start, wait until the dreams are over and use hypnosis to extract many more details than you would otherwise remember. You could compare dreams and evaluate the likelihood of an accident happening on the basis of how many details you agree on, maybe it would even be possible when we know enough to produce such dreams at will. The possibilities are endless. But it all depends on you people getting off your asses doing something.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Of course it is. You are the one having these dreams so you have the responsibility of putting them to good use to save lives. Just search for "precognition airplane accidents" in Google and you'll find plenty of examples.

People like you should join forces in research programs so scientists can study your brain activity while you sleep and try to pinpoint exactly what happens in your brains when you are having these dreams. You could register when the dreams start, wait until the dreams are over and use hypnosis to extract many more details than you would otherwise remember. You could compare dreams and evaluate the likelihood of an accident happening on the basis of how many details you agree on, maybe it would even be possible when we know enough to produce such dreams at will. The possibilities are endless. But it all depends on you people getting off your asses doing something.

Great, I'm glad you liked it - let's chat sometimes.
 

ArtieE

Well-Known Member
Great, I'm glad you liked it - let's chat sometimes.
Don't chat with me. Try to contact

The University of Virginia: Division of Perceptual Studies
or
The University of Arizona ask for information about the Sophia Research Programs
or
The University of Edinburgh ask for the Koestler Parapsychology Unit

I think these might be interested.
 

vijeno

Active Member
If atheist disbelieve in predestination, then how can they explain precognitive dreams?

1. Atheists are not necessarily science-minded, all rational, naturalistic, anti-mystic and anti-religious. There is a strong overlap, for sure, but just look at the buddhist population to find counterexamples.

2. As others have said, how often did you dream stuff that never came to be? Did you know that this was a precocnitive dream before that plane crashed in reality?

3. If you were able to show that you somehow are indeed capable of foretelling the future, then I would suggest that we go looking for the natural explanation, so we can reproduce the result for the benefit of everyone.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
3. If you were able to show that you somehow are indeed capable of foretelling the future, then I would suggest that we go looking for the natural explanation, so we can reproduce the result for the benefit of everyone.

So, what are you saying? One can rewrite the future events?
 
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VioletVortex

Well-Known Member
They really can't. I have experienced bad omens and whatnot that clearly suggest the existence of some sort of Occult forces, and I have heard many accounts of precognitive dreams.
 
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