How can one be a Pagan Atheist?

[Rainbow Mage]

Wow, s-word seems angry

 

[S-word]

Wow, s-word seems angry

I can be a mean, mean man when upset, but you don't want to be anywhere in close proximity to me when I am angry, which in this case, I am neither. Godless atheists who claim to be christians don’t upset me, I simply tear off the sheep covering that they put on in order to infiltrate God's flock and devour one of his sheep, revealing the ravishing wolf that is hiding beneath his false covering.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

S-word calm down with the attacks, LOL

 

[Azakel]

I have the right to quote from the dictionary, which defines Atheism as: -- Disbelief or denial of the existence of God. -- The doctrine that there is no God, or that the word "God" and statements about it or using it are meaningless.

I have the right to quote from the dictionary, which defines a Christian, as: "One who professes the belief that Jesus is the Christ and who follows and lives according to the teachings of Jesus.

And here are some of the teachings of Jesus, Matt 4: 16; so they will see the good things you do and praise your Father in heaven. 5: 48; You must be perfect just as you Father in heaven is perfect. 6: 1; If you do these things publicly, you will receive no reward from your Father in heaven. 6: 4; Pray to your Father, who is unseen. And your Father, who sees what you do in private will reward you. 6: 8; Your Father already knows what you need before you ask him. 6: 9; Our Father who art in heaven, etc. 6: 14; Your Father in heaven will also forgive you. 6: 15; Then your Father will forgive the wrongs that you have done. 6: 18; Only your Father will know and your Father will reward you. 6: 26; Your Father in heaven takes care of them. 6: 32; Your Father in heaven knows that you need all these things.

Now then, what gives you the right to claim that a godless atheist, can classify themself as a christian, who is one who obeys the teachings of Jesus Christ, who said that we should pray to his God and our God, to his Father and our Father, in this manner, "Our Father who are in heaven hallowed be thy name, etc," some godless atheist from some godless atheist forum, who has converted you to their godless belief?

I don't care what you call or think a Christian should be. I was talking about the Pagan part if you care to read what I said, I really don't care about Christianity or it's ilk really anymore. Funny how a Christian gets to tell all us Pagans how we can define it but we can't there Religion, get over yourself.

 

[S-word]

S-word calm down with the attacks, LOL

If I were to go into an atheists forum, I would go there to attack the beliefs of the godless atheists and heritics who frequent those godless dens, but there's no need to do so, as you are all here trying to convert the God worshipers over to your godless religious beliefs, so I would rather stay within this forum and defend the god worshipers from such godless people, who slip in disguising themselves as so-called christian/atheists in order to attack the religious belief in God.

 

[Azakel]

If I were to go into an atheists forum, I would go there to attack the beliefs of the godless atheists and heritics who frequent those godless dens, but I would rather stay within this forum and defend the god worshipers from such godless people, who slip in disguising themselves as so-called christian/atheists in order to attack the religious belief in God.

God worshipers or just Christians? Because I'll tell you something, Pagans are god/goddess worshipers(for the most part) and you're not defending anything we believe in. In fact you're trying to tell us what are beliefs are but saying in an earlier post that Atheist can be Pagan. Defend you own ilk some where else and stay On Topic. This is about Pagan-Atheist not Atheist-Christian or anything else like that.

 

[S-word]

God worshipers or just Christians? Because I'll tell you something, Pagans are god/goddess worshipers(for the most part) and you're not defending anything we believe in. In fact you're trying to tell us what are beliefs are but saying in an earlier post that Atheist can be Pagan. Defend you own ilk some where else and stay On Topic. This is about Pagan-Atheist not Atheist-Christian or anything else like that.

So, what are you saying, are you a Godkless pagan, or are you a god worshiping pagan? If you are of the later, then please define what god you worship and perpaps I may defend your right to believe in that god also. But i'm off to work, we'll continue this conversation at a later date.

 

[Azakel]

So, what are you saying, are you a Godkless pagan, or are you a god worshiping pagan? If you are of the later, then please define what god you worship and perpaps I may defend your right to believe in that god also. But i'm off to work, we'll continue this conversation at a later date.

I am a Pagan who believes in the gods/goddess but do not worship them. I don't fell a need to and I believe they do not want me to worship. Beside, though it was a nice offer I don't want anyone to really defend my right to believe in the gods. Also what if I was a 'godless' Pagan, you wouldn't defend my right to believe in the gods as Archetype?
I for one do, though maybe because I am starting to lean that way.... can we say 'egregore' ^_^

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

If I were to go into an atheists forum, I would go there to attack the beliefs of the godless atheists and heritics who frequent those godless dens, but there's no need to do so, as you are all here trying to convert the God worshipers over to your godless religious beliefs, so I would rather stay within this forum and defend the god worshipers from such godless people, who slip in disguising themselves as so-called christian/atheists in order to attack the religious belief in God.

Nobody on this forum claims to be an atheist Christian. I think you can turn off your attack mode for now and the sheep will be just fine...

 

[S-word]

Nobody on this forum claims to be an atheist Christian. I think you can turn off your attack mode for now and the sheep will be just fine...

Ahh, but someone in this thread did say that there is such a thing as an atheist/christian, see post #4, as follows "I would assume that if a Pagan was an atheist, it would mean that they follow the traditions, but don't believe in Gods. Just like a Christian can be an atheist- they believe in Jesus teachings, but they don't believe in any God." My challange, was to that person to shpw how a christian who follows the teachings of Jesus can possibly be an atheist.

Although no pagan can be classified as a christian, and all pagans are not atheists, as pagans can believe in, and worship or not worship the many gods that they do believe in, but all atheists are pagans, so although we may say that a person is a pagan/atheist, thereby defining that they are a pagan who believes that there is no god, it makes no sense to call a person an atheist/pagan, as all atheists are by definition, pagans.

 

[S-word]

I am a Pagan who believes in the gods/goddess but do not worship them. I don't fell a need to and I believe they do not want me to worship. Beside, though it was a nice offer I don't want anyone to really defend my right to believe in the gods. Also what if I was a 'godless' Pagan, you wouldn't defend my right to believe in the gods as Archetype?
I for one do, though maybe because I am starting to lean that way.... can we say 'egregore' ^_^

So, what are the names of all these gods and goddesses that you believe in, but who don't want you to worship them?

 

[Azakel]

as all atheists are by definition, pagans.

False, please come back when you learn what it means. Show us where there's a definition that Atheist are be default Pagan.

So, what are the names of all these gods and goddesses that you believe in, but who don't want you to worship them?

What do you want a list? That's a bit off-topic here.

 

[S-word]

False, please come back when you learn what it means. Show us where there's a definition that Atheist are be default Pagan.


What do you want a list? That's a bit off-topic here.

I stand corrected, what I should have said, was that all pagans who abandon their former belief that gods and goddess exist, cease to be pagans and are then godless atheists.

A pagan is defined in the dictionary as one who is not a christian, a muslim, or a jew, in other words, one who does not worship the God of Abraham. But a pagan can be one who worships other so-called gods, or at least, like yourself, believe that other gods exist, and there are those who call themselves pagans, who don't believe that any God or gods exist, but they cannot be classified as pagans, for they are godless atheists. Once a pagan like yourself, give up their belief that their strange gods and goddesses exist, they then cease to be pagans and instead, become godless atheists.

 

[Rainbow Mage]

S-word has anyone ever told you that you come off like a raving fundie?

 

[Azakel]

Wow, godless Atheist and so-called gods. Not a vary nice person are we S.

 

[S-word]

Wow, godless Atheist and so-called gods. Not a vary nice person are we S.

What are you suggesting? That atheists are not godless people? And if so, who do you believe is the god or gods that the atheists believe in? But I wounldn't advise that you suggest to the atheists in this forum, that they are not godless people, but that they do in fact secretly believe in a god, or gods, and that they are therefore pagans like yourself. But then, who knows? Perhaps if you do, you may be able to convert them to your way of belief and they might then also believe in your gods and goddesses, and be delivered from their godless belief.

 

[S-word]

S-word has anyone ever told you that you come off like a raving fundie?

Yep! Thousands of times, but only by pagans, atheists, agnostics, and heritics such as yourself, who have little, if any understanding, of the truths that are revealed in scripture.

 

[Wotan]

S-word has anyone ever told you that you come off like a raving fundie?

Possibly so but they would be only partly right. A "raving fundie" is simply a chrisitan who takes his religion seriously.

 

[gnostic]

I am not sure you be.

Wouldn't buddhists be considered to be pagan atheists?

 

[S-word]

I am not sure you be.

Wouldn't buddhists be considered to be pagan atheists?

To who is your question directed?