How can we know if the Abrhamic God Is the one true God?

[DanielR]

Well, he's not.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

Well, he's not.

Could you maybe elaborate as to why he's not?

 

[ronandcarol]

How can we know if the Abrahamic God Is the one true God?
WOW, comments from one end of the spectrum to the other! Until a person is convinced in their mind who the real God is, this world will offer new and different gods everyday. Your post says that you were doing research or getting ready to make a post with info, from the Bible, it appears. So if you are reading and studying the Bible you will find that it clearly says that the God of the O.T. is the same throughout the Bible, the N. T. too. He came to earth as Emmanuel, God with us.
You can only only believe it with faith, God cannot lie.
ronandcarol

 

[Theweirdtophat]

I never understood about the whole "true god" kind of thing? What makes them true? We know there were numerous gods and even God himself acknowledged their existence. He also said that no one will worship a god before him, meaning there are others gods that can be worshipped but you have to acknowledge Yahweh to be the best god.

Why would the other gods be false? Are they false because they are normal beings pretending to be gods? Are they false because they lead people to the wrong path, or do gods not like completion? So many questions.

 

[Jumi]

As long as there's no direct method to observe the Abrahamic God or his action on the universe available, we can choose not to believe in him.

 

[J2hapydna]

Actually, men have the ability to determine and declare that sort of thing quite accurately -and even to plan your day.

God declared human history -in great detail -before it happened. It is written in the bible -but it takes some research.

The parts in bold are the present situation -the rest will also happen. When it does, many will know.
If it does not, that particular "God" would be false.

Zec 12:1 The burden of the word of the LORD for Israel, saith the LORD, which stretcheth forth the heavens, and layeth the foundation of the earth, and formeth the spirit of man within him.
Zec 12:2 Behold, I will make Jerusalem a cup of trembling unto all the people round about, when they shall be in the siege both against Judah and against Jerusalem.
Zec 12:3 And in that day will I make Jerusalem a burdensome stone for all people: all that burden themselves with it shall be cut in pieces, though all the people of the earth be gathered together against it.
Zec 12:4 In that day, saith the LORD, I will smite every horse with astonishment, and his rider with madness: and I will open mine eyes upon the house of Judah, and will smite every horse of the people with blindness.
Zec 12:5 And the governors of Judah shall say in their heart, The inhabitants of Jerusalem shall be my strength in the LORD of hosts their God.
Zec 12:6 In that day will I make the governors of Judah like an hearth of fire among the wood, and like a torch of fire in a sheaf; and they shall devour all the people round about, on the right hand and on the left: and Jerusalem shall be inhabited again in her own place, even in Jerusalem.
Zec 12:7 The LORD also shall save the tents of Judah first, that the glory of the house of David and the glory of the inhabitants of Jerusalem do not magnify themselves against Judah.
Zec 12:8 In that day shall the LORD defend the inhabitants of Jerusalem; and he that is feeble among them at that day shall be as David; and the house of David shall be as God, as the angel of the LORD before them.
Zec 12:9 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will seek to destroy all the nations that come against Jerusalem.

Zec 14:2 For I will gather all nations against Jerusalem to battle; and the city shall be taken, and the houses rifled, and the women ravished; and half of the city shall go forth into captivity, and the residue of the people shall not be cut off from the city.
Zec 14:3 Then shall the LORD go forth, and fight against those nations, as when he fought in the day of battle.
Zec 14:4 And his feet shall stand in that day upon the mount of Olives, which is before Jerusalem on the east, and the mount of Olives shall cleave in the midst thereof toward the east and toward the west, and there shall be a very great valley; and half of the mountain shall remove toward the north, and half of it toward the south.
Zec 14:5 And ye shall flee to the valley of the mountains; for the valley of the mountains shall reach unto Azal: yea, ye shall flee, like as ye fled from before the earthquake in the days of Uzziah king of Judah: and the LORD my God shall come, and all the saints with thee.
Zec 14:6 And it shall come to pass in that day, that the light shall not be clear, nor dark:
Zec 14:7 But it shall be one day which shall be known to the LORD, not day, nor night: but it shall come to pass, that at evening time it shall be light.
Zec 14:8 And it shall be in that day, that living waters shall go out from Jerusalem; half of them toward the former sea, and half of them toward the hinder sea: in summer and in winter shall it be.
Zec 14:9 And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one.
Zec 14:10 All the land shall be turned as a plain from Geba to Rimmon south of Jerusalem: and it shall be lifted up, and inhabited in her place, from Benjamin's gate unto the place of the first gate, unto the corner gate, and from the tower of Hananeel unto the king's winepresses.
Zec 14:11 And men shall dwell in it, and there shall be no more utter destruction; but Jerusalem shall be safely inhabited.
Zec 14:12 And this shall be the plague wherewith the LORD will smite all the people that have fought against Jerusalem; Their flesh shall consume away while they stand upon their feet, and their eyes shall consume away in their holes, and their tongue shall consume away in their mouth.
Zec 14:13 And it shall come to pass in that day, that a great tumult from the LORD shall be among them; and they shall lay hold every one on the hand of his neighbour, and his hand shall rise up against the hand of his neighbour.
Zec 14:14 And Judah also shall fight at Jerusalem; and the wealth of all the heathen round about shall be gathered together, gold, and silver, and apparel, in great abundance.
Zec 14:15 And so shall be the plague of the horse, of the mule, of the camel, and of the ***, and of all the beasts that shall be in these tents, as this plague.
Zec 14:16 And it shall come to pass, that every one that is left of all the nations which came against Jerusalem shall even go up from year to year to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, and to keep the feast of tabernacles.
Zec 14:17 And it shall be, that whoso will not come up of all the families of the earth unto Jerusalem to worship the King, the LORD of hosts, even upon them shall be no rain.

As far as the war prophecy you have quoted wars are happening all the time. The real prophecy is in Zechariah 12 where it says that first the horse and rider will be struck by a plague. This is the plague that is mentioned in Zechariah 14 too. It says it will also strike Egypt. This is also mentioned in Isaiah 19. Then the the rest of the prophecy says

Bible Gateway passage: Zechariah 14 - New International Version

Half the Jews will be exiled. Jesus says the same in Matt 24. It says The mountain will split, due to an earthquake and the people will flee

In addition night and day will be the same. Matt 24 also speaks about the sun becoming dim.

So none of these real things have happened. Just one thing has happened, the Jews are in Israel, after they were kicked out by Heraclius in the days of MP. Then Caliph Umer leading MPs army defeated Heraclius, restored the exilarchs in Baghdad, reversed the Xhristian proclamation to kill all Jews and reversed the ban on Jews entering Jerusalem. This happened 1400 years ago and the Jews have been living there since. So just because 1,300 years later the Jews are now technologically capable of defeating Arabs doesnt mean some grand prophecy has come true. The rest of those things must happen too. Like I said, you guys do nothing different than snake oil salesmen. This will happen that will happen, buy it now or it will be too late.

 

[J2hapydna]

Just gona throw this out there, just because it's a quote doesn't make it more impressive.

When it's from a Nobel Prize winner and well known mathematician it does. Reasonable people need reasonable evidence or predator snake oil salesmen take advantage of them

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

When it's from a Nobel Prize winner and well known mathematician it does. Reasonable people need reasonable evidence or predator snake oil salesmen take advantage of them

No honestly it doesn't. What you think because the man was smart he could never say anything ****ing dumb? He's still a human and I don't care how many prizes he's won or for what. The argument needs to stand up on it's own or it's an appeal to authority.

I'd also argue that humans as a whole are not capable of being reasonable in everything. We just don't work like that.

 

[J2hapydna]

No honestly it doesn't. What you think because the man was smart he could never say anything ****ing dumb? He's still a human and I don't care how many prizes he's won or for what. The argument needs to stand up on it's own or it's an appeal to authority.

I'd also argue that humans as a whole are not capable of being reasonable in everything. We just don't work like that.

He is a mathematician. He is basically explaining what has to be observed by a mathematician to think something didn't happen randomly. In other words the probability something like that could happen randomly is very low

 

[J2hapydna]

No honestly it doesn't. What you think because the man was smart he could never say anything ****ing dumb? He's still a human and I don't care how many prizes he's won or for what. The argument needs to stand up on it's own or it's an appeal to authority.

I'd also argue that humans as a whole are not capable of being reasonable in everything. We just don't work like that.

Yes this true

 

[David1967]

How can we know if the Abrahamic God is the one true God?

Die. Meet Him. Ask Him.

 

[Fire_Monkey]

I was working on my next post for the Bible reading, I had finished now and although I normally just type it all out at once this one I decided would be better to sum up in one longer post. While doing this the thought popped into my head and so I thought I would ask. How can we know if the Abrahamic God is the one true God?

Of course we cannot know. The Yahweh Hebrew sky god is simply one of thousands of different deities that various peoples have invented due to emotional desperation throughout the course of history.
Yawheh is no more valid than is Odin, Shiva, Zeus, or Thor.

Hope this helps, amigo.

FM

 

[Twilight Hue]

You can only only believe it with faith, God cannot lie.
ronandcarol

That's a major rip off.

Every focused biblical character did not require any type of faith to believe in God as the narrative is written out. Miracles signs and wonders seem to put any faith requirement to rest.

Seems some today got the short end of the stick there.

This notion of faith is just a mental carrot invented and designed primarly to retain, lure, and compel people to stay with something that in essence, has no actual substance to back up any claim. Hence the stories touted as "history".

Every bible story account told and retold over and over serves as the next best thing as the greatness of God is continually reinforced over and over again by those narratives through the telling and repeating of wondrous miracles and signs right from the pulpit every Sunday suggesting strongly that faith simply isn't enough to believe in any thing.

 

[pearl]

You can't.

Such a thing can only be assumed due to various mental limitations we humans have.

We do not 'know', we believe in an incomprehensible Mystery through a particular belief system, each one bound by human limitations.

 

[J2hapydna]

God declared human history -in great detail -before it happened. It is written in the bible -but it takes some research

Unfortunately none of it has come true from the chapters you quoted. On the other hand I can easily argue that the things you quoted did come true is in the days of MP.

Plague: YES (Justinian plague)

Plague in Egypt: YES

Animals dying: YES

Earthquake that destroyed temple: YES

Jews flee persecution in Jerusalem: YES

Sun went dim: YES

Temperatures fell: YES

Persia defeated (Dan 10): YES

Greeks defeated (Dan 10): YES

Koresh Servant who doesn't know G-d raised (Isa 45): YES

Assyria and Egypt unite (Isa 19): YES

Temple in Egypt & its border: YES

A great leader raised (Isa 19): YES

Sacrifice at Egyptian temple: YES

Jews returned to Jerusalem: YES

So you should accept MP as your savior. He fulfilled far more prophecies in the Bible than anyone in the last 2,000 years and even brought home the Jews who were expelled by Heraclius. LOL

 

[Kilgore Trout]

How can we know if the Abrahamic God is the one true God?

By redefining "know" in some way which is different than what it currently means.

 

[Lorgar-Aurelian]

Die. Meet Him. Ask Him.

Could I skip the dying part for now?

 

[Diak (Jack) Anosh]

Abrahamic God is the one true God?

Simple really. Read to see what He has to say, test what He says against what takes place. If the two match, He probably is who He says He is, and can back any claims He makes.

But the real test comes when He expresses prophecies, and two hundred years or more take place, then the prophecies happen in full, just exactly as prophesied.

NO OTHER RELIGIOUS FIGURE HAS DONE THAT. And if one does, who is NOT God, the prophecies will expose the fraud for what he is.

 

[David1967]

Could I skip the dying part for now?

LOL. Hope we all can for a long time.

 

[InvestigateTruth]

I was working on my next post for the Bible reading, I had finished now and although I normally just type it all out at once this one I decided would be better to sum up in one longer post. While doing this the thought popped into my head and so I thought I would ask. How can we know if the Abrahamic God is the one true God?

The only way, I know, through the evidences manifested from the Prophets and Messengers of God. For me, there was no other way. Thus, I suggest, you investigate the reasons and proofs that the divine Messengers of God had set forth, in order to convince mankind that They were sent by God. Also, the Abrahamic God being the True God does not mean that other non-abrahamic religions were not from the same God. Bahai Faith teaches, non-abrahamic Religions were also revealed by the same God, though they were revealed for a different people with diferent cultures and conditions, thus they were given different Rites to suit them.