How can your belief be falsified?

[1213]

Now you appear to be claiming that your beliefs are irrational.

Please explain why do you think so?

 

[1213]

How would you falsify the evolution theory?

 

[Subduction Zone]

Please explain why do you think so?

An unfalsifiable belief almost always an irrational belief .

 

[Subduction Zone]

How would you falsify the evolution theory?

There are quite a few ways. One would be a violation of phylogeny.

 

[Colt]

A common assertion, but as has been pointed out before, this method seems to validate wildly different religions and deities, so to a neutral observer it appears an unreliable methodology.

5 people could spend time with (1) person and each come away with a little different description about that person. Using your methodology, the person that they met with may not exist at all.

"Evolution unerringly achieves its end: It imbues man with that superstitious fear of the unknown and dread of the unseen which is the scaffolding for the God concept. And having witnessed the birth of an advanced comprehension of Deity, through the co-ordinate action of revelation, this same technique of evolution then unerringly sets in motion those forces of thought which will inexorably obliterate the scaffolding, which has served its purpose." UB 1955

 

[TransmutingSoul]

. So what I am asking is for people who...........hold beliefs, how can those beliefs be falsified?

Well take away all the Messengers and the resulting Holy Scriptures, then take away the Messages of the Bab and Baha'u'llah, then I guess if I then belived in God, there would be no actual proof, the promptings of my own mind would be easy falsifiable.

Regards Tony

 

[Brian2]

In addition to some supportive reasoning, my belief that there is intelligent life beyond our planet is supported by extraordinary evidence that cannot be replicated:

Along with hundreds of other people, I had two sightings, a couple of years apart in the same area, of UFOs flying 10-15 mph at tree-top level. They were close enough that, at one point, I could have hit them with baseballs.

Obviously, I don't care at all that my evidence is anecdotal or that my belief cannot be falsified.

That sounds like life on the planet to me.

 

[Brian2]

No, atheism is part of my world view, and my world view is atheistic, but atheism is not a world view. If you can show a deity exists I am left wondering why you haven't?

Are you saying that since God cannot be shown to exist, that your world view is unfalsifiable?

 

[Brian2]

I have demonstrated errors in the bible on here, when a theist asked for them, they were waved away or rationalised. Also yours is not the only deity humans have imagined are real. I recognise that some god concepts or claims are falsifiable though, Like an omniscient omnipotent omnibenevolent deity, that created, or allowed a world with ubiquitous suffering, as one example.

I don't think that errors in the Bible show that the Bible is not true.

 

[rational experiences]

I always believed that if a type of creator existed no human would know it.

However being a human I also know I demand to have it proven. I know I've owned those thoughts.

I used those thoughts and said prove yourself.

In the only position I own. By my human mind using my human voice.

I really didn't expect an answer. Yet I gained an answer.

My own mind said you need to live a spiritual life to have it proven.

Couldn't argue. Seeing I asked.

So I did. I studied spirituality my own person.

Knowing all types of religions are practiced.

What I admired was their thoughtful kind caring choices. Acts of true human assistance. Knowing a human chooses those behaviours.

So I didn't need to belong I only needed to assist. By choice I did. Personal care. Charity. Healing meditation practices. Questions answers experiences.

Knowing my own belief many times I had to question.

In one minute human experience I saw a record of the eternal spirit not a man. Not a woman. Just a memory glimpse on our side.

Okay I said a type of being.

Not a power or a source....a being.

It made sense that a non talking non sexual spirit with....absolute no judgement just complete love existed.

I was aware in my experience.

I can only tell other humans...my experience only.

I don't need you to believe me. I seek no reason for your belief. I've only told my story.

What I have learnt is that my human brothers term God was human science only. Not the same experience.

 

[joe1776]

That sounds like life on the planet to me.

Why?

 

[BilliardsBall]

So living people have no way of showing that Christian beliefs aren't false?

This seems to be what you're suggesting.

I was being facetious, but since God is in evidence universally, and especially to born agains, I cannot falsify something that is true! It's like saying "falsify gravity's pull"!

 

[BilliardsBall]

Not really, if we die and the claim were false, we won't have any way to know it was false. Hence unfalsifiable.

You are so intent on responding to every meagre thought I share, you miss my sarcasm.

Answer--YOU cannot falsify the truth of Jesus Christ. You might as well try to falsify the self-evident fact of existence or gravity itself.

 

[Wandering Monk]

So firstly, there is no belief I won't discard if the evidence demands it. So what I am asking is for people who preach or hold beliefs, how can those beliefs be falsified? If of course they can't then how can you rationally justify disbelieving other unfalsifiable beliefs. Which I assume need only be a rhetorical question?

For the sake of clarity, define falsification. I think some people misunderstand its meaning.

 

[idea]

I believe Raelism is non falsifiable .

I believe my religion is falsifiable and a good religion to boot.

Bookofmormoncentral.org evidence central.org

Of course the people in it are not perfect, but I believe it is the perfect church.

Interesting to see recent pictures that are surfacing.

Do you support old men getting "married" to 14yo's behind their 1st wife's back? Take a good look at that girl - that is what your church is founded on.

 

[idea]

For the sake of clarity, define falsification. I think some people misunderstand its meaning.

Deception, lies, dishonesty - often to get some kind of power (political power, conqubines), to hide illegal activities.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Interesting to see recent pictures that are surfacing.

Do you support old men getting "married" to 14yo's behind their 1st wife's back? Take a good look at that girl - that is what your church is founded on.

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No evidence of sex that I know of. They could have married to help her get into the celestial kingdom.

I have looked in Wikipedia and found no proof of sex with anyone but Joseph Smiths wife.

But there may have been polygamy not to my knowledge.

 

[robocop (actually)]

Interesting to see recent pictures that are surfacing.

Do you support old men getting "married" to 14yo's behind their 1st wife's back? Take a good look at that girl - that is what your church is founded on.

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Also, Mohammed had a 9 year old wife and Hindus recently in history all married young.

 

[idea]

Also, Mohammed had a 9 year old wife and Hindus recently in history all married young.

JS and Mohammed had a lot in common, both wrote their own scripture, both had visions and talked to God. Perhaps you should investigate the religious beliefs of Muslims if child brides strike your fancy.

 

[robocop (actually)]

JS and Mohammed had a lot in common, both wrote their own scripture, both had visions and talked to God. Perhaps you should investigate the religious beliefs of Muslims if child brides strike your fancy.

My church is supposed to study Islam.