How Did I Get Here?

[Jimmy]

I’m always hearing preachers on Moody radio saying that people always ask why am I here. I don’t think that’s an important question to be asking. I think people know why they’re here. To live. To me that’s the obvious answer. I think the better question that people should be asking in my opinion is how did I get here.

 

[Stevicus]

I’m always hearing preachers on Moody radio saying that people always ask why am I here. I don’t think that’s an important question to be asking. I think people know why they’re here. To live. To me that’s the obvious answer. I think the better question that people should be asking in my opinion is how did I get here.

I sometimes wonder the same thing. Not just how I got here, but where is "here"? If our planet and solar system and galaxy keep moving, then we're never in the same spot for very long.

Where the heck are we?

 

[Jimmy]

I sometimes wonder the same thing. Not just how I got here, but where is "here"? If our planet and solar system and galaxy keep moving, then we're never in the same spot for very long.

Where the heck are we?

In the infinite cosmos imo

 

[osgart]

How do you know the cosmos is infinite? If space and time had a beginning which seems to be the case, then perhaps the cosmos is finite.

The universe in its current form is a fleeting 13.8 billion years and subject to a heat death. The initial conditions at the start of our universe is mind numbingly precise for things to come together as they did.

Space and time had a beginning so there must be a backdrop to space and time as we know it. That backdrop is the infinite eternal fundamental reality. Now perhaps our universe sprang from infinite possibilities, and every card in our deck fell just right, or infinite adjustments can be made and life could exist in many alternative ways.

Consciousness is the Achilles heel in a naturalistic unguided universe becoming. I say awry crude non living intelligence systems of a mental dimension and nature spawned our universe. I know people love naturalism but so far it's a lipstick cover all narrative that leaves too many questions unanswered and dangling in the wind. So creationism is too cute, and perfect, and naturalism too sterile, and nowhere near deep enough to explain things as they are and appear to be.

Science and empirical evidence can only give you external behaviors, and never the intrinsic nature of things as they are. For explanation that is sufficient for how things are the way they are, one is necessitated to do philosophy. Math, logic, and empirical evidence are useful tools of limited scope and application. The universe is not obligated to make intrinsic sense to human understanding using those tools. From knowns logic is useful. But the second you delve into unknown unknowns then logic is a guessing game.

I feel that life is an intrinsic nature of existence that has deep substance and aboutness and has synchronous harmonies that will not appear in the slightest mindlessly. The backdrop is our born nature, and the universe an illusive conditioned fleeting appearance.

 

[Jimmy]

How do you know the cosmos is infinite? If space and time had a beginning which seems to be the case, then perhaps the cosmos is finite.

The universe in its current form is a fleeting 13.8 billion years and subject to a heat death. The initial conditions at the start of our universe is mind numbingly precise for things to come together as they did.

Space and time had a beginning so there must be a backdrop to space and time as we know it. That backdrop is the infinite eternal fundamental reality. Now perhaps our universe sprang from infinite possibilities, and every card in our deck fell just right, or infinite adjustments can be made and life could exist in many alternative ways.

Consciousness is the Achilles heel in a naturalistic unguided universe becoming. I say awry crude non living intelligence systems of a mental dimension and nature spawned our universe. I know people love naturalism but so far it's a lipstick cover all narrative that leaves too many questions unanswered and dangling in the wind. So creationism is too cute, and perfect, and naturalism too sterile, and nowhere near deep enough to explain things as they are and appear to be.

Science and empirical evidence can only give you external behaviors, and never the intrinsic nature of things as they are. For explanation that is sufficient for how things are the way they are, one is necessitated to do philosophy. Math, logic, and empirical evidence are useful tools of limited scope and application. The universe is not obligated to make intrinsic sense to human understanding using those tools. From knowns logic is useful. But the second you delve into unknown unknowns then logic is a guessing game.

I feel that life is an intrinsic nature of existence that has deep substance and aboutness and has synchronous harmonies that will not appear in the slightest mindlessly. The backdrop is our born nature, and the universe an illusive conditioned fleeting appearance.

1. I feel it in my heart.
2. I wouldn’t be here- my heart would implode with a finite cosmos.

 

[osgart]

1. I feel it in my heart.
2. I wouldn’t be here- my heart would implode with a finite cosmos.

So if it's infinite then we have an infinite array of galaxies, stars, planets. I wouldn't desire that to be the case. I am quite sure infinity exists, but the cosmos; I don't think so.

It's turtles all the way down anyways.

 

[Jimmy]

How do you know the cosmos is infinite? If space and time had a beginning which seems to be the case, then perhaps the cosmos is finite.

The universe in its current form is a fleeting 13.8 billion years and subject to a heat death. The initial conditions at the start of our universe is mind numbingly precise for things to come together as they did.

Space and time had a beginning so there must be a backdrop to space and time as we know it. That backdrop is the infinite eternal fundamental reality. Now perhaps our universe sprang from infinite possibilities, and every card in our deck fell just right, or infinite adjustments can be made and life could exist in many alternative ways.

Consciousness is the Achilles heel in a naturalistic unguided universe becoming. I say awry crude non living intelligence systems of a mental dimension and nature spawned our universe. I know people love naturalism but so far it's a lipstick cover all narrative that leaves too many questions unanswered and dangling in the wind. So creationism is too cute, and perfect, and naturalism too sterile, and nowhere near deep enough to explain things as they are and appear to be.

Science and empirical evidence can only give you external behaviors, and never the intrinsic nature of things as they are. For explanation that is sufficient for how things are the way they are, one is necessitated to do philosophy. Math, logic, and empirical evidence are useful tools of limited scope and application. The universe is not obligated to make intrinsic sense to human understanding using those tools. From knowns logic is useful. But the second you delve into unknown unknowns then logic is a guessing game.

I feel that life is an intrinsic nature of existence that has deep substance and aboutness and has synchronous harmonies that will not appear in the slightest mindlessly. The backdrop is our born nature, and the universe an illusive conditioned fleeting appearance.

1. I feel it in my heart.
2. I wouldn’t be here- my heart would implode with a finite cosmos.

So if it's infinite then we have an infinite array of galaxies, stars, planets. I wouldn't desire that to be the case. I am quite sure infinity exists, but the cosmos; I don't think so.

It's turtles all the way down anyways.

Infinite galaxies, stars and planets? Sure, God doesn’t change that much imo.

 

[We Never Know]

I sometimes wonder the same thing. Not just how I got here, but where is "here"? If our planet and solar system and galaxy keep moving, then we're never in the same spot for very long.

Where the heck are we?

That's true.
I had never thought about it in that way.
We(living people) will never be where we are again.

 

[Jimmy]

That's true.
I had never thought about it in that way.
We(living people) will never be where we are again.

It kind of doesn’t matter. A light year a way or 10 feet. It’s all the same. Although it is neat that we’re moving through the cosmos.

 

[Jimmy]

I sometimes wonder the same thing. Not just how I got here, but where is "here"? If our planet and solar system and galaxy keep moving, then we're never in the same spot for very long.

Where the heck are we?

We know our galaxy is traveling through the universe at 1.3 million mph and we know our universe is expanding at 160,000 mph but do we know if our universe is traveling through the cosmos at a great speed?

 

[Madsaac]

Science and empirical evidence can only give you external behaviors, and never the intrinsic nature of things as they are. For explanation that is sufficient for how things are the way they are, one is necessitated to do philosophy. Math, logic, and empirical evidence are useful tools of limited scope and application. The universe is not obligated to make intrinsic sense to human understanding using those tools. From knowns logic is useful. But the second you delve into unknown unknowns then logic is a guessing game.

I feel that life is an intrinsic nature of existence that has deep substance and aboutness and has synchronous harmonies that will not appear in the slightest mindlessly. The backdrop is our born nature, and the universe an illusive conditioned fleeting appearance.

When we are talking about how we got here, I think science does a pretty good job, we come from cells born out of the Big Bang, our DNA and environment act as a guide to our life and then our cells die and go back into the universe.

I know science can't answer everything such as philosophy and moral judgments. However, at the end of the day, could they just be part of the human imagination which comes from our highly evolved mind.

And I think science will continue to make inroads and be able to answer more questions in the future like the article below on consciousness

Consciousness Is a Continuum, and Scientists Are Starting to Measure It

A new technique helps anesthesiologists track changes in states of consciousness

www.scientificamerican.com

 

[Jimmy]

How do you know the cosmos is infinite? If space and time had a beginning which seems to be the case, then perhaps the cosmos is finite.

The universe in its current form is a fleeting 13.8 billion years and subject to a heat death. The initial conditions at the start of our universe is mind numbingly precise for things to come together as they did.

Space and time had a beginning so there must be a backdrop to space and time as we know it. That backdrop is the infinite eternal fundamental reality. Now perhaps our universe sprang from infinite possibilities, and every card in our deck fell just right, or infinite adjustments can be made and life could exist in many alternative ways.

Consciousness is the Achilles heel in a naturalistic unguided universe becoming. I say awry crude non living intelligence systems of a mental dimension and nature spawned our universe. I know people love naturalism but so far it's a lipstick cover all narrative that leaves too many questions unanswered and dangling in the wind. So creationism is too cute, and perfect, and naturalism too sterile, and nowhere near deep enough to explain things as they are and appear to be.

Science and empirical evidence can only give you external behaviors, and never the intrinsic nature of things as they are. For explanation that is sufficient for how things are the way they are, one is necessitated to do philosophy. Math, logic, and empirical evidence are useful tools of limited scope and application. The universe is not obligated to make intrinsic sense to human understanding using those tools. From knowns logic is useful. But the second you delve into unknown unknowns then logic is a guessing game.

I feel that life is an intrinsic nature of existence that has deep substance and aboutness and has synchronous harmonies that will not appear in the slightest mindlessly. The backdrop is our born nature, and the universe an illusive conditioned fleeting appearance.

I think understanding the universe is quite simple almost trivial even. That doesn’t take away from its sheer magnitude or awesomeness though.

 

[osgart]

When we are talking about how we got here, I think science does a pretty good job, we come from cells born out of the Big Bang, our DNA and environment act as a guide to our life and then our cells die and go back into the universe.

I know science can't answer everything such as philosophy and moral judgments. However, at the end of the day, could they just be part of the human imagination which comes from our highly evolved mind.

And I think science will continue to make inroads and be able to answer more questions in the future like the article below on consciousness

Consciousness Is a Continuum, and Scientists Are Starting to Measure It

A new technique helps anesthesiologists track changes in states of consciousness

www.scientificamerican.com

There's a level of explanation there but I don't think it'll ever be in the fullest sense. Since consciousness is a measure of awareness I don't think that involves knowing about the subjects of consciousness; the experiencers. Awareness can be measured, but what about the process of an identity that can understand things, and also experience love, or compassion? What about measuring character qualities of individuals? And people talk about emotions but what exactly is an emotion and how do they relate to love, or hate, or fear, or having courage. There's things about being alive that can't be defined by physical forces.

The evolved mind is a fallback explanation; not that the mind is fully understood by physical forces and/or processes.

Btw I would have to subscribe to read the article. I didn't do that.

 

[shunyadragon]

I’m always hearing preachers on Moody radio saying that people always ask why am I here. I don’t think that’s an important question to be asking. I think people know why they’re here. To live. To me that’s the obvious answer. I think the better question that people should be asking in my opinion is how did I get here.

Evolution

 

[Jimmy]

Evolution

That’s one way to look at it.

 

[Madsaac]

Awareness can be measured, but what about the process of an identity that can understand things, and also experience love, or compassion? What about measuring character qualities of individuals? And people talk about emotions but what exactly is an emotion and how do they relate to love, or hate, or fear, or having courage. There's things about being alive that can't be defined by physical forces.

Yes true but I don't think it will be too long before we can measure and explain why we feel certain things, relatively speaking.

Btw I would have to subscribe to read the article. I didn't do that.

Shame, I don't have to

 

[ChristineM]

To me that’s the obvious answer. I think the better question that people should be asking in my opinion is how did I get here.

Well, one night mommy and daddy...

Ahh you mean the whole life thing?

Best guess is abiogenesis. Followed by about 3.7 billion years of evolution

 

[PureX]

I consider what I do know.

I ... am ... here.

And this was not my doing. I did not self-generate. Nor did I create the 'here' within which I perceive myself. Nor did it self-generate. So it seems there is a source involved that I cannot comprehend. All I can know is that I am not it.

So what do I do, now?

I may as well play it through and see what comes of it. Try to enjoy this strange and mysterious gift of being. Of being here. And of being cognizant ... if a bit confused.

 

[paarsurrey]

How Did I Get Here?

I consider what I do know.

I ... am ... here.

And this was not my doing. I did not self-generate. Nor did I create the 'here' within which I perceive myself. Nor did it self-generate. So it seems there is a source involved that I cannot comprehend. All I can know is that I am not it.

So what do I do, now?

I may as well play it through and see what comes of it. Try to enjoy this strange and mysterious gift of being. Of being here. And of being cognizant ... if a bit confused.

So, in other words, one is nowhere.

Regards

 

[PureX]

How Did I Get Here?

So, in other words, one is nowhere.

Regards

I have no idea what you think that means in relation to what I posted.