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Sunstone said:What is Ultimate Reality?
eudaimonia said:I have no idea what the term "Ultimate" means in this context. What would a non-Ultimate Reality be?Mark
Sunstone said:What is Ultimate Reality?
How do we know that is so?
wanderer085 said:The one idea I cannot come to a conclusion on is whether the universe would exist if there was no conciousness anywhere, i.e. if nobody perceives it, is it really there?
wanderer085 said:The one idea I cannot come to a conclusion on is whether the universe would exist if there was no conciousness anywhere, i.e. if nobody perceives it, is it really there?
Are you a Roman Catholic?sandy whitelinger said:It also is still your fault.
Seyorni said:Good point.
Understanding of Reality is an ongoing process. The TOE seeks to unite relitivity and quantum theories.
wanderer085 said:The one idea I cannot come to a conclusion on is whether the universe would exist if there was no conciousness anywhere, i.e. if nobody perceives it, is it really there?
wanderer085 said:This is your concept, however, no evidence exists to support this assertion.
Godlike said:NO. Presence defines Reality, presence requires Consciousness to introduce Time and the Quantum effects of this process impact @ the sub-atomic level, maintaining the Real by inversion, encyclically. If no-one is experiencing or has experienced it, it doesn't exist. However, this does not apply to the concept of God who transcends this arrangement: He simply IS, indwelling and constant.
This is also a more consistant opinion as it avoids the "checken or egg" prblem of the alternative. If reality cannot exist without an observer, and an observer is real, then an observer cannot exist without reality which relies on his existace. It's circular.Be careful. This is only one possible interpretation of Quantum physics. Others might speculate that our conscious observations do not affect reality but merely limits our perceptions to one actuality out of multiple possibilities. In other words all of the possibilities that exist before the observation continue to exist after the observation, but after the observation we will only be able to perceive one. It is not reality that is limited, it is us. If this is the case then conscious is not needed for existence.
wanderer085 said:No god-concept is unversally "self-evident", otherwise it would be universally accepted.
Lots of good humor in this thread, Sunstone. Where do you come up with these questions? lolSunstone said:What is Ultimate Reality?
How do we know that is so?
autonomous1one1 said:My arrival to RF is too recent to have allowed time to read the other science threads so my apologies if these comments are redundant.