How do you feel about your tax money is being used to pay Al-Qaeda and ISIS fighters

[mikkel_the_dane]

Partly true maybe

I think when a government is "sick" and people force the government out (protest, overthrow), they don't accept their government.

They don't accept how they rule, hence don't accept how government abuse their tax money

Of course not many have the guts to stand up against a corrupt government, but usually those that do go into history as HEROES

So, in a way I think we are responsible for how our government uses our tax money

BECAUSE

IF you see injustice and do nothing you are as guilty, the Wise have told us

Well, you assume the government is sick, just because you say so as you. Maybe it is more complicated than that idea.

 

[sayak83]

That's what you want, not my intention here
I saw the title of the video and created the OP

Do you think that is a responsible way to create a thread? Don't you think one is responsible for at least an attempt at vetting the veracity of the claims made before sharing a video/news article in a public forum that contains potentially controversial claims?

 

[Spirit of Light]

Partly true maybe

I think when a government is "sick" and people force the government out (protest, overthrow), they don't accept their government.

They don't accept how they rule, hence don't accept how government abuse their tax money

Of course not many have the guts to stand up against a corrupt government, but usually those that do go into history as HEROES

So, in a way I think we are responsible for how our government uses our tax money

BECAUSE

IF you see injustice and do nothing you are as guilty, the Wise have told us

I have not seen the Norwegian Government send tax money to terror groups

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Do you think that is a responsible way to create a thread? Don't you think one is responsible for at least an attempt at vetting the veracity of the claims made before sharing a video/news article in a public forum that contains potentially controversial claims?

Well, my intentions are righteous for all humans, because they are righteous to me. As long some people don't get the joke in that, the Western culture idea of the correct way for all humans with rational positive(right) answers will continue.

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I have not seen the Norwegian Government send tax money to terror groups

That in the end depends on what you view as terror groups. The same with me and everybody else.

 

[Spirit of Light]

That in the end depends on what you view as terror groups. The same with me and everybody else.

Those mentioned in OP as an example

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Those mentioned in OP as an example

We are doing the enemy of my enemy is good, because the first one is the enemy of my enemy, but the first one might not be good, but useful in fighting my enemy.
Good and useful are different assessments, but both are different subjective variants of what matters in the end.

 

[exchemist]

It's not about the video (see my post#11)

Then why include a Russian propaganda video?

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

Then why include a Russian propaganda video?

I don't restrict the options, because I don't have to include the following option for other posters: I don't accept the framing and have another opinion than the ones offered.

In any framing if I am objective I try to have the last option be: I like cheese or whatever works as that the person doesn't accept my framing.

 

[Twilight Hue]

Where is the option for.."I do not believe claims made in random you tube videos'.

With bright colors, big letters, and red arrows.

A sign of the typical intelligent You Tuber.

 

[Aupmanyav]

India does not pay to ISIS or al-Quaeda. There was a time when Kashmiri separatists were paid to keep quite. Modi changed the situation.
But tax money continues to be wasted in many other ways.

"The Statue of Unity is the world's tallest statue, with a height of 182 metres (597 feet), located in the state of Gujarat, India. It depicts Indian statesman and independence activist Vallabhbhai Patel (1875–1950), who was the first deputy prime minister and home minister of independent India and an adherent of Mahatma Gandhi. Patel was highly respected for his leadership in uniting 562 princely states of India to form the single Union of India. The statue is located in Gujarat on the Narmada River in the Kevadiya colony, facing the Sardar Sarovar Dam 100 kilometres (62 mi) southeast of the city of Vadodara." Wikipedia. Cost USD 422 million.

 

[stvdv]

Well, you assume the government is sick, just because you say so as you. Maybe it is more complicated than that idea.

I said "a" government, to make clear it's just a hypothetical example (only in reply to a reply)

BUT

Yes, I agree. I think it is more complicated than that, hence I quoted the word "sick".

This was just to make it simple. For example if a serial killer and rapist rapes 15 young girls then I call this "sick", and the rapist better be locked up w/o parole, because I don't believe they will usually change within this one lifetime

I believe in Karma, so maybe whatever happens is "our" own creation. No coincidence Putin is born, or Kimmy. And killings also are unavoidable.

I also believe that we have the free will to use our Self Effort to overcome our "bad" habits. Of course not all are capable to do so.

But because this is just a belief system I kept it simple, saying 'a "sick" government'

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I said "a" government, to make clear it's just a hypothetical example (only in reply to a reply)

BUT

Yes, I agree. I think it is more complicated than that, hence I quoted the word "sick".

This was just to make it simple. For example if a serial killer and rapist rapes 15 young girls then I call this "sick", and the rapist better be locked up w/o parole, because I don't believe they will usually change within this one lifetime

I believe in Karma, so maybe whatever happens is "our" own creation. No coincidence Putin is born, or Kimmy. And killings also are unavoidable.

I also believe that we have the free will to use our Self Effort to overcome our "bad" habits. Of course not all are capable to do so.

But because this is just a belief system I kept it simple, saying 'a "sick" government'

As long as you understand that we in some cases disagree on governments and what they do, we agree in some other cases.

 

[stvdv]

India does not pay to ISIS or al-Quaeda. There was a time when Kashmiri separatists were paid to keep quite. Modi changed the situation.
But tax money continues to be wasted in many other ways.

"The Statue of Unity is the world's tallest statue, with a height of 182 metres (597 feet), located in the state of Gujarat, India. It depicts Indian statesman and independence activist Vallabhbhai Patel (1875–1950), who was the first deputy prime minister and home minister of independent India and an adherent of Mahatma Gandhi. Patel was highly respected for his leadership in uniting 562 princely states of India to form the single Union of India. The statue is located in Gujarat on the Narmada River in the Kevadiya colony, facing the Sardar Sarovar Dam 100 kilometres (62 mi) southeast of the city of Vadodara." Wikipedia. Cost USD 422 million.

Thanks for sharing
Good to know that India does not pay ISIS

Wow, what a gigantic statue. Nice picture

 

[Revoltingest]

So you don't know that it is true and you made a set of limited answer, where you left out the choice to answer that someone doesn't consider the video true.

A useful option….
Videos with stunning claims that aren’t supported aren’t worth my time.

 

[stvdv]

As long as you understand that we in some cases disagree on governments and what they do, we agree in some other cases.

I understand that probably most on RF disagree with me on Governments

I don't mind if others disagree with me, and I don't want to change others their views.
If someone hates or loves Putin, Trump, Macron, Rutte or whoever, that's all the same to me, won't keep me awake at night

Most importantly:
I do not impose my view on others, hence my signature IMHO. I do mind if others impose their view on me. All can have the most absurd views, I don't care, and leave them with that belief.

I never debate beliefs
I only share my views

So, I hope you now understand

 

[mikkel_the_dane]

I understand that probably most on RF disagree with me on Governments

I don't mind if others disagree with me, and I don't want to change others their views.
If someone hates or loves Putin, Trump, Macron, Rutte or whoever, that's all the same to me, won't keep me awake at night

Most importantly:
I do not impose my view on others, hence my signature IMHO. I do mind if others impose their view on me. All can have the most absurd views, I don't care, and leave them with that belief.

I never debate beliefs
I only share my views

So, I hope you now understand

Well, see I don't find neither love nor hate relevant there. So we can't even agree on that.

 

[stvdv]

Do you think that is a responsible way to create a thread? Don't you think one is responsible for at least an attempt at vetting the veracity of the claims made before sharing a video/news article in a public forum that contains potentially controversial claims?

No, not really in this case, not at all
(I added it also in the OP why and how)

I just saw the title which was the inspiration for the OP. I only shared the video as source where I found the Title, because I thought that is protocol on RF (source reference)

 

[stvdv]

I have not seen the Norwegian Government send tax money to terror groups

Dutch Government did receive gifts from oil sheikhs and in exchange they had to accept, allow a certain Koran translation, which was linked to fundamentalists

Few month ago this made frontpage news, and they cleaned up this "mess"

I would not have known, if it hadn't been in the News. Though at that time I visited a Mosque a few times, and got a Koran Translation that felt wrong to me.

Now I know, and checked with non fundamentalist version, and indeed some verses were different.

 

[stvdv]

Well, see I don't find neither love nor hate relevant there. So we can't even agree on that.

You still miss the point I see