how does a YEC explain trees that are 50,000 years old.

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Show me the pictures of the ice.

Since it melted about 12,000 years before the invention of the camera, that would be difficult.

However, I can show you pictures of what the ice left behind. Have a look at this satellite image of Western New York in the area near Palmyra:

Do you notice how all the drumlins (those hills with the shadows) all point in the same direction? This is the direction of movement of the glacier. It picked up material as it moved south across Ontario, and deposited this material as it melted.

 

[Autodidact]

Show me the pictures of the ice.

This post is seriously making me question your intelligence. You realize that this happened well before the invention of the camera, right?

Are you saying that you don't believe anything unless you see a picture of it? Because I think you'll find that position gets you into some trouble.

Do you reject all science, FFH, or just the part that contradicts your preconceived interpretation of your holy book?

 

[Autodidact]

You've misjudged me. I have absolutely no doubts about my faith (LDS beliefs) or that the earth is 13,000 years old.

No doubts whatsoever.

We humans, and this earth, are not a product of evolution, big bang, etc.

Well that makes sense. I mean, if you can believe that millions of people inhabited a continent without leaving a trace of evidence, including metal weapons, cement buildings, or bones or fossils of many species of large mammals, you could believe that the earth was only 13,000 years old, despite the existence of actual artifacts many times that age.

 

[Autodidact]

FFH: You seem to lack an understanding of basic science. Have you ever taken a science class in any subject? Science never proves anything. Science isn't based on proof; it's based on evidence. Y'know, that stuff that you don't have any of as a basis for your extremely odd beliefs.

 

[Draka]

FFH: You seem to lack an understanding of basic science. Have you ever taken a science class in any subject? Science never proves anything. Science isn't based on proof; it's based on evidence. Y'know, that stuff that you don't have any of as a basis for your extremely odd beliefs.

FFH dropped out of college because the "science" was obviously false as it went against his religious teachings.:areyoucra Does that answer your question?

 

[painted wolf]

I will say he is as near a textbook example of creationist behavior as I've ever seen.

wa:do

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

You've misjudged me. I have absolutely no doubts about my faith (LDS beliefs) or that the earth is 13,000 years old.

No doubts whatsoever.

We humans, and this earth, are not a product of evolution, big bang, etc.

Show me a picture.

 

[painted wolf]

No photo of the golden plates is there?

wa:do

 

[Draka]

Show me a picture.

:cover:Oh please don't ask him for that! Isn't one of these enough???

 

[sandy whitelinger]

"I will say, sir, with all due respect, that there is no such thing as YOU!"

-Mr. Banks, Mary Poppins

If there was a me I'd be wondering if there was a me. -Me, Religiousforums

 

[Draka]

No photo of the golden plates is there?

wa:do

Last I checked there wasn't even a photo of Jesus hanging out with his buddies either. And that was supposed to have happened much more recently than Niagara Falls forming. Where's the photo proof of Jesus?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Last I checked there wasn't even a photo of Jesus hanging out with his buddies either. And that was supposed to have happened much more recently than Niagara Falls forming. Where's the photo proof of Jesus?

The lack of photo evidence has convinced me that the world came into existence in 1825.

 

[Alceste]

The lack of photo evidence has convinced me that the world came into existence in 1825.

And everything was yellow and blurry! Look! Proof!

 

[Draka]

And everything was yellow and blurry! Look! Proof!

Not to mention that the vast part of our early history was deviod of much color at all. Why one has only to look at all the black and white photographs to prove that color is a more recent development in the world. :yes:

 

[Alceste]

Not to mention that the vast part of our early history was deviod of much color at all. Why one has only to look at all the black and white photographs to prove that color is a more recent development in the world. :yes:

Not only that, but there's no real evidence the world is 3-dimensional, apart from a brief stint in the 80s when I won this neat-o 3D camera with 4 lenses and took a few wicked photos until the company that developed them went out of business. Now, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person with "proof" the world is three dimensional, and it's all locked up in a trunk in a garage in Montreal.

 

[Draka]

Not only that, but there's no real evidence the world is 3-dimensional, apart from a brief stint in the 80s when I won this neat-o 3D camera with 4 lenses and took a few wicked photos until the company that developed them went out of business. Now, as far as I'm aware, I'm the only person with "proof" the world is three dimensional, and it's all locked up in a trunk in a garage in Montreal.

That company was obviously forced out of business by the other photo-monopolies who are working feverishly to keep people in the dark about our 3-dimensional status. This huge conspiracy to cover up that we aren't all just two-dimensional characters in a comic book. Oh shoot!...where IS Cardero? He's in on it isn't he?

 

[Nepenthe]

Everyone knows that the Shroud of Turin is a photograph of the messiah!!!!!



Just in case anyone actually believes the Shroud is anything other than a medieval fake, I offer this link.

 

[fantome profane]

Not to mention that the vast part of our early history was deviod of much color at all. Why one has only to look at all the black and white photographs to prove that color is a more recent development in the world. :yes:

That probably has something to do with the fact that the speed of light is slowing down.

 

[J Bryson]

I believe that the world did exist before 1825, but only in the form of words.

 

[Nepenthe]

I believe that the world did exist before 1825, but only in the form of words.

I agree, except pre-1825 was actually only in ASL. Hence the lack of records.