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How does one fight laziness to make salat?

Sha'irullah

رسول الآلهة
Considering that I am usually beyond tired because of the worrisomeness of people this often leaves me tired and beyond fed up.

The ability to do anything is often sucked dry from my bones(if such a thing is possible). I am just curious as to how does one fight this compulsive laziness
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Beats me. Make dua for Allah to save you (and include me :) ) from it.

What do you menan though, because of the worrisomeness of people?
 

Monotheist 101

Well-Known Member
I get lazy just before salat time...I just say Auzubillah Minashaitan Nirajeem. And get on with it..

Its not the easiest of things..but I imagine gollum from LOTR whispering in my left ear..motivates me heaps..
 

Taahir

Member
If you are afraid of God and his punishment, then use that. Think about what could possibly happen or how much regret you would have for not making the salat.

If you really love God, then you could use that. It's God's way of you showing you appreciate God and want to worship God.

You just have to find the sweetness in it, which is something I am working on also. Insha'Allah we both get it.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
You should do it because you wish to please Allah. Not to gain rewards in Jennah or escape pains of hell.

Think of all the blessings you are bestowed SA. Then think how you like to be thanked for good you do. Dont you think Allah would love for his servant to thank him?
 

Union

Well-Known Member
How do you pray Salah ? In the following formula?

Fajr :2+2
Dhuhr : 4+4+2+2
Asar:4+4
Maghrib:3+2+2
Isha:4+4+2+3/1

Then it will make you tired . Most of the Muslim are failing to attain 05 times Salah because of this hard and fast rule imposed . Look at the Muslim countries , at the time of Salah , how many Muslims are in mosque , and how many outside , not praying . Be it middle east or Asia , the ratio is 1:100 (Its my personal observation being in those countries for a long while).

Please study Salah in Qur'an and see how Merciful ALLAH is , he doesn't pressurize any law upon HIS servants beyond his/her capability .
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
How do you pray Salah ? In the following formula?

Fajr :2+2
Dhuhr : 4+4+2+2
Asar:4+4
Maghrib:3+2+2
Isha:4+4+2+3/1

Then it will make you tired . Most of the Muslim are failing to attain 05 times Salah because of this hard and fast rule imposed . Look at the Muslim countries , at the time of Salah , how many Muslims are in mosque , and how many outside , not praying . Be it middle east or Asia , the ratio is 1:100 (Its my personal observation being in those countries for a long while).

Please study Salah in Qur'an and see how Merciful ALLAH is , he doesn't pressurize any law upon HIS servants beyond his/her capability .
What?

Fajr-2
Zuhr4
Asr-4
Maghreb-3
Isha-4

You are talking of volutary salah.

Seriously, the guy asked about kicking laziness. Not about what anyone thinks is the right way to go about it.
 

Rational_Mind

Ahmadi Muslim
You should do it because you wish to please Allah. Not to gain rewards in Jennah or escape pains of hell.

Think of all the blessings you are bestowed SA. Then think how you like to be thanked for good you do. Dont you think Allah would love for his servant to thank him?

Wow that is a much better spiritual view. Is this an influence from Shia teachings.

I don't mean to be offensive as I believe this is the concept I tried to make a couple of Sunni members on the forum understand, but is often dismissed as being unauthorized view coming from an Ahmadi.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Wow that is a much better spiritual view. Is this an influence from Shia teachings.

I don't mean to be offensive as I believe this is the concept I tried to make a couple of Sunni members on the forum understand, but is often dismissed as being unauthorized view coming from an Ahmadi.

I think its influence from Rumis' poetry. Not very sectarian :)
 

Taahir

Member
What?

Fajr-2
Zuhr4
Asr-4
Maghreb-3
Isha-4

You are talking of volutary salah.

Seriously, the guy asked about kicking laziness. Not about what anyone thinks is the right way to go about it.

This is something I don't understand, as far as people tell me and as I've read from scholars, certain sunnah prayer's are not even voluntary (2 before Fajr, 4 before Dhuhr and 2 after, 2 after Maghrib, 2 after Isha), they are basically Fardh and it's sinful if you don't do them, especially the 2 before Fajr and 4 before Isha.

Then in my school of thought Witr is also basically Fardh and sinful if you don't do it.

I don't get it, and this confuses me, if they are Fardh why are they just not considered Fardh instead of Sunnah.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
This is something I don't understand, as far as people tell me and as I've read from scholars, certain sunnah prayer's are not even voluntary (2 before Fajr, 4 before Dhuhr and 2 after, 2 after Maghrib, 2 after Isha), they are basically Fardh and it's sinful if you don't do them, especially the 2 before Fajr and 4 before Isha.

Then in my school of thought Witr is also basically Fardh and sinful if you don't do it.

I don't get it, and this confuses me, if they are Fardh why are they just not considered Fardh instead of Sunnah.
What school of thought do you follow?
 

Taahir

Member
What school of thought do you follow?

Hanafi.

That's another thing. There's differences in the schools of thought that could have drastic consequences if one is wrong.

For example, Maliki things dogs are pure, while the other three don't. So if a dog licks a Maliki, they don't think their wudu is broken, so they pray. But if Maliki is wrong, their prayer isn't accepted, which is pretty big.

It's just things like this when I start to think about them are starting to confuse me.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Hanafi.

That's another thing. There's differences in the schools of thought that could have drastic consequences if one is wrong.

For example, Maliki things dogs are pure, while the other three don't. So if a dog licks a Maliki, they don't think their wudu is broken, so they pray. But if Maliki is wrong, their prayer isn't accepted, which is pretty big.

It's just things like this when I start to think about them are starting to confuse me.
Hm, I thought it was that the Malikis thought the dogs hair isn't impure like the shafi'i.

Anyway, do not worry. All madhabs have been enhanced over centuries of dedicated scholars. Allah (swt) tells us in the Quran to consult the people of knowledge if we don't know something.

Don't get too worked up over it. As I remember you are a new revert and susceptible to whispers (we all are!)

For now, study the school you chose in the basic areas that are of most importance! Salat, Wudu and fasting.

Trust me, it is ony confusion and trouble to get ahead of yourself. Give yourself time to perfect these areas. Especially establishing the prayer 5 times a day. Don't get ahead of yourself as you will feel overwhelmed! You are a revert! Allah will understand.
Remember Allah judges by intention. If there was fear of hell, the the madhabs wouldn't be so many.

There are great resources to the hanafi madhab online. If you are interested I can give some links :)
 

Taahir

Member
Hm, I thought it was that the Malikis thought the dogs hair isn't impure like the shafi'i.

Anyway, do not worry. All madhabs have been enhanced over centuries of dedicated scholars. Allah (swt) tells us in the Quran to consult the people of knowledge if we don't know something.

Don't get too worked up over it. As I remember you are a new revert and susceptible to whispers (we all are!)

For now, study the school you chose in the basic areas that are of most importance! Salat, Wudu and fasting.

Trust me, it is ony confusion and trouble to get ahead of yourself. Give yourself time to perfect these areas. Especially establishing the prayer 5 times a day. Don't get ahead of yourself as you will feel overwhelmed! You are a revert! Allah will understand.
Remember Allah judges by intention. If there was fear of hell, the the madhabs wouldn't be so many.

There are great resources to the hanafi madhab online. If you are interested I can give some links :)

Thanks for the kind words. Sure, that would help a lot if you don't mind.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Thanks for the kind words. Sure, that would help a lot if you don't mind.
https://www.youtube.com/user/hanafifiqh

Check out the seekers quest series and the q&a videos. But be careful. This seems to be deobandi, which is bad if you allow them to influence you towards extremism. But they do the most work it seems in spreading fiqh knowledge as well as good lectures in regards to the Hanafi madhab.

But deffinetly be careful. Keep to the fiqh issues and things like adab and character.

SeekersGuidance - Online Courses, IslamCast, Answers
Qibla - for The Islamic Sciences | Learn, Change, Inspire
These two sites have good Q&A as well.

I pray Allah helps you on your way. Stay moderate. Focus o what I said, as well as spiritulity and character building. Baby steps :)
 

Taahir

Member
https://www.youtube.com/user/hanafifiqh

Check out the seekers quest series and the q&a videos. But be careful. This seems to be deobandi, which is bad if you allow them to influence you towards extremism. But they do the most work it seems in spreading fiqh knowledge as well as good lectures in regards to the Hanafi madhab.

But deffinetly be careful. Keep to the fiqh issues and things like adab and character.

SeekersGuidance - Online Courses, IslamCast, Answers
Qibla - for The Islamic Sciences | Learn, Change, Inspire
These two sites have good Q&A as well.

I pray Allah helps you on your way. Stay moderate. Focus o what I said, as well as spiritulity and character building. Baby steps :)

Thanks for the resources brother. I try to stay moderate, but then I read things like this.

SeekersGuidance - Does Using an Asthma Pipe Invalidate the Fast? – Answers

Seriously? Using an asthma pipe breaks the fast?

Q&A sites are usually what start to drive me crazy and feel overwhelmed, with rulings like that.
 

Monotheist 101

Well-Known Member
I dont follow any one madhab.. I take from all of them what I am comfortable with and reject that which does not make sense to me.

As for the prayers, I consider 5 of them fardh, but end up praying the optional ones anyway.

As Assad said earlier I believe Allah is aware of our intentions which IMO are most important.
 

Assad91

Shi'ah Ali
Thanks for the resources brother. I try to stay moderate, but then I read things like this.

SeekersGuidance - Does Using an Asthma Pipe Invalidate the Fast? – Answers

Seriously? Using an asthma pipe breaks the fast?

Q&A sites are usually what start to drive me crazy and feel overwhelmed, with rulings like that.
Same with smoking.Poit of the fast is that you don't take anything into the body. But of course, its haram to withold the asthma pump if you are having an attack.

Really, just do what you can.

Our Lord is not one who is without mercy and compassion! In just about every surah it starts with Bismillah irRahman irRaheem!

Its not a competition. You don't have to be perfect, you can't be perfect. Be human bro and relax :)
 

Taahir

Member
I dont follow any one madhab.. I take from all of them what I am comfortable with and reject that which does not make sense to me.

As for the prayers, I consider 5 of them fardh, but end up praying the optional ones anyway.

As Assad said earlier I believe Allah is aware of our intentions which IMO are most important.

Your way makes sense, but if I were to adopt that I am sure people would start telling me I'm blindly following, picking and choosing, and going with my own desires.

I believe that as well, but the way it's presented it seems a lot more rigid and strict than that.

My heart tells me one thing, but who am I to disagree with people who study this our whole lives? That's what my brain always shoots back at me. Plus the fact I get told not everyone can judge with their heart because it can get corrupt.

Same with smoking.Poit of the fast is that you don't take anything into the body. But of course, its haram to withold the asthma pump if you are having an attack.

Really, just do what you can.

Our Lord is not one who is without mercy and compassion! In just about every surah it starts with Bismillah irRahman irRaheem!

Its not a competition. You don't have to be perfect, you can't be perfect. Be human bro and relax :)

Smoking I understand. But isn't fasting supposed to be about not consuming food and drink, and abstaining all our body parts from sin? My heart tells me, Allah being infinitely knowledgeable and understanding, wouldn't refuse to accept someone's fast because they used an asthma pipe. Once again though, who am I to decide on that.

I constantly try to remind myself that God is the most Gracious, the most Merciful. But based on the things around me and what I take in, I'm just living in constant fear that I'm going to burn in Hell for eternity and being afraid to do basically anything for fear that it might be a sin.

We can't be perfect, but we're supposed to try to follow the Prophet salallahu alayhay wasalam and try to be right? Down to the details of what colours we can wear, what hand we can eat with, what foot we can step into the bathroom with, how we lay when we go to sleep, what shoe we put on first, the amount of times we wash our hands, etc.

I sincerely apologize if I'm coming off as bitter or insulting. I am just so confused and overwhelmed and lost right now and I get such different opinions from every person I talk to, every resource I read, every translation of the Qur'an, every understanding of Hadith.
 
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