How does one fight laziness to make salat?

[Assad91]

Smoking I understand. But isn't fasting supposed to be about not consuming food and drink, and abstaining all our body parts from sin? My heart tells me, Allah being infinitely knowledgeable and understanding, wouldn't refuse to accept someone's fast because they used an asthma pipe. Once again though, who am I to decide on that.

I constantly try to remind myself that God is the most Gracious, the most Merciful. But based on the things around me and what I take in, I'm just living in constant fear that I'm going to burn in Hell for eternity and being afraid to do basically anything for fear that it might be a sin.

We can't be perfect, but we're supposed to try to follow the Prophet salallahu alayhay wasalam and try to be right? Down to the details of what colours we can wear, what hand we can eat with, what foot we can step into the bathroom with, how we lay when we go to sleep, what shoe we put on first, the amount of times we wash our hands, etc.

I sincerely apologize if I'm coming off as bitter or insulting. I am just so confused and overwhelmed and lost right now and I get such different opinions from every person I talk to, every resource I read, every translation of the Qur'an, every understanding of Hadith.

I feel you bro. For one, don't fear hell. That is satan trying to discourage you.


As for the rest. I wish I could help you, but only you can.

I don't eat with right hand only. I don.t always sleep on my side.
We are to TRY to be like Prophet (saws). But we will fail, over and over.

Whats important is you try

 

[Taahir]

I feel you bro. For one, don't fear hell. That is satan trying to discourage you.


As for the rest. I wish I could help you, but only you can.

I don't eat with right hand only. I don.t always sleep on my side.
We are to TRY to be like Prophet (saws). But we will fail, over and over.

Whats important is you try

Yeah, thanks for keeping your patience with me and trying to help me. I guess I just have to figure this out on my own. Insha'Allah I come to the right conclusion.

 

[Assad91]

Yeah, thanks for keeping your patience with me and trying to help me. I guess I just have to figure this out on my own. Insha'Allah I come to the right conclusion.

Its just that the answer is within you.

Feel free to contact me anytime brother

 

[Taahir]

Its just that the answer is within you.

Feel free to contact me anytime brother

Would not different people and different sects etc. have an extremely different answer within them though?

Thanks for your kindness and support brother.

 

[Assad91]

Would not different people and different sects etc. have an extremely different answer within them though?

Thanks for your kindness and support brother.

We all love Qur'an, Allah and Prophet. Even though we disagree on things, our hearts are to be on these three common things.

That is why unity is important. There are extremes on both sides, Shia and Sunni.

So as to why you should follow traditions (sunnahs) is in your heart. It may take time, but you will find it, the answer.

Its like, if you love someone, you want to be close. You want to follow them and have their acceptance. You want to please them and make them happy with you.

The question is why. Why love them. Why follow them.

 

[Monotheist 101]

Would not different people and different sects etc. have an extremely different answer within them though?

Thanks for your kindness and support brother.

Bro IMO these sects or madhabs within sects are just imaginary lines, what is most important is that you place faith in Allah, and follow what makes sense to you..

There are different schools of thought, they are there because not all Humans think the same way, actually no two individuals have the same thought patterns, IMO all of them are ok, if they help you achieve what you want...


As for mixing and matching madhabs, no one has the right to tell you that you are wrong in doing that, even the Imams of the various madhabs have allowed you to disagree with them..

 

[Taahir]

Bro IMO these sects or madhabs within sects are just imaginary lines, what is most important is that you place faith in Allah, and follow what makes sense to you..

Wouldn't you say that's dangerous though? Because there's some believers who would say that certain types of substances are ok, or that dating is ok if it doesn't lead to sex, or that any type of music is ok if it doesn't lead you to doing anything bad.

Plus usually saying you follow what makes sense to you leads you to getting accused of following your own desires and being blind, and not being a scholar you have no right to do that etc.

 

[Poeticus]

or that any type of music is ok if it doesn't lead you to doing anything bad.

Namaste, Taahir-ji:

I have always wanted to know out of curiosity and intrigue:

Which type of music is okay in Islam? I ask this within the IslamDIR because I would like to know the viewpoints of Muslims themselves instead of resorting to websites where there might be an anti-Islamic bias.

If you can help me out, I would be much obliged.

M.V.

 

[Taahir]

Namaste, Taahir-ji:

I have always wanted to know out of curiosity and intrigue:

Which type of music is okay in Islam? I ask this within the IslamDIR because I would like to know the viewpoints of Muslims themselves instead of resorting to websites where there might be an anti-Islamic bias.

If you can help me out, I would be much obliged.

M.V.

Considering that I am completely and utterly confused about it myself, and hear tons of different opinions, I'll let a more knowledgeable Muslim answer this for certain, out of fear that I am going to misguide.

 

[Sha'irullah]

Namaste, Taahir-ji:

I have always wanted to know out of curiosity and intrigue:

Which type of music is okay in Islam? I ask this within the IslamDIR because I would like to know the viewpoints of Muslims themselves instead of resorting to websites where there might be an anti-Islamic bias.

If you can help me out, I would be much obliged.

M.V.

Usually the consent by most strict shuyuh is that all music is haram. I have actually never met anyone who actually took the advice of these shaykhs. I have also never known any Sunni alim to say otherwise

 

[Pastek]

Namaste, Taahir-ji:

I have always wanted to know out of curiosity and intrigue:

Which type of music is okay in Islam? I ask this within the IslamDIR because I would like to know the viewpoints of Muslims themselves instead of resorting to websites where there might be an anti-Islamic bias.

If you can help me out, I would be much obliged.

M.V.

I always grew up with music around. I never heard of music as haram before having internet. If you go in any arab country (exept Saudi Arabia) you will find music everywhere.

I also want to say that Saudi have a well known music channel (Rotana) which promotes various singers, and some of them are not that far as western (female) singers in the way they dress.

I've also seen some videos of Saudi marriages and they play music (you can check on youtube). Their dance is similar to the Emiratis.
This is something which is not forbidden in this country.

I know there's a hadith (or two) who says that music is haram but many Imams/scholars disagree with this.

If you ask me my personnal point of view. I think that "music" like Marilyn Monson, it's not music. And also when it promotes "pornography" like Lady Gaga and Nicky Minaj (for ex, but they are many) it's no more music and it's dangerous for the youngers.

 

[Poeticus]

Considering that I am completely and utterly confused about it myself, and hear tons of different opinions, I'll let a more knowledgeable Muslim answer this for certain, out of fear that I am going to misguide.

Namaste,

No, problem, Taahir-ji. Thank you for your honesty. I shall not linger here longer for it is for members of the IslamDIR, and I didn't mean to derail the thread nor intrude. If you do find an answer though, that is backed by Quranic scripture, may you be so kind as to PM me? It would mean a lot and I would appreciate it. Thank you.

I always grew up with music around. I never heard of music as haram before having internet. If you go in any arab country (expect Saudi Arabia) you will find music everywhere.

I also want to say that Saudi have a well known music channel (Rotana) which promotes various singers, and some of them are not that far as western (female) singers in the way they dress.

I've also seen some videos of Saudi marriages and they play music (you can check on youtube). Their dance is similar to the Emiratis.
This is something which is not forbidden in this country.

I know there's a hadith (or two) who says that music is haram but many Imams/scholars disagree with this.

If you ask me my personnal point of view. I think that "music" like Marilyn Monson, it's not music. And also when it promotes "pornography" like Lady Gaga and Nicky Minaj (for ex, but they are many) it's no more music and it's dangerous for the youngers.

Namaste, Pastek-ji:

Yes, you make valid points. Thank you for your supportive answer. I love Egyptian singer Tamer Hosny (the best Arabic singer in the world, IMO). Erga3ly is the best song from the Arab world, in my opinion. Anyways, thank you both!

Usually the consent by most strict shuyuh is that all music is haram. I have actually never met anyone who actually took the advice of these shaykhs. I have also never known any Sunni alim to say otherwise

Namaste, Archer-ji:

I see. So it is probably a very unique and conflicting matter. Hopefully, I am able to learn about how each Muslim sect views music in its entirety as well as in its types/groups.

M.V.

 

[Pastek]

Namaste, Pastek-ji:

Yes, you make valid points. Thank you for your supportive answer. I love Egyptian singer Tamer Hosny (the best Arabic singer in the world, IMO). Erga3ly is the best song from the Arab world, in my opinion. Anyways, thank you both!

Salam, yes it is a good song and a good singer. But Amr Diab is better

 

[Taahir]

I always grew up with music around. I never heard of music as haram before having internet. If you go in any arab country (exept Saudi Arabia) you will find music everywhere.

I also want to say that Saudi have a well known music channel (Rotana) which promotes various singers, and some of them are not that far as western (female) singers in the way they dress.

I've also seen some videos of Saudi marriages and they play music (you can check on youtube). Their dance is similar to the Emiratis.
This is something which is not forbidden in this country.

I know there's a hadith (or two) who says that music is haram but many Imams/scholars disagree with this.

If you ask me my personnal point of view. I think that "music" like Marilyn Monson, it's not music. And also when it promotes "pornography" like Lady Gaga and Nicky Minaj (for ex, but they are many) it's no more music and it's dangerous for the youngers.

In terms of Nicki Minaj's lyrical content ok, but if someone just LISTENS to Lady Gaga and doesn't watch her music videos or whatever, is it really pornography? Unless I'm mistaken she just sings the same generic catchy poppy stuff as everyone else on the radio.

 

[Pastek]

In terms of Nicki Minaj's lyrical content ok, but if someone just LISTENS to Lady Gaga and doesn't watch her music videos or whatever, is it really pornography? Unless I'm mistaken she just sings the same generic catchy poppy stuff as everyone else on the radio.

I agree, the problem is more the videos than the lyrics. But nowadays, people rush to see each new clip more than listening to the music. If someone wants to go to her concert it will be more a show than a musical performance.

 

[Taahir]

I agree, the problem is more the videos than the lyrics. But nowadays, people rush to see each new clip more than listening to the music. If someone wants to go to her concert it will be more a show than a musical performance.

This I can agree with. That's just how things are these days. But then shouldn't it be the visual imagery that is the problem and not the music?

 

[Monotheist 101]

Wouldn't you say that's dangerous though? Because there's some believers who would say that certain types of substances are ok, or that dating is ok if it doesn't lead to sex, or that any type of music is ok if it doesn't lead you to doing anything bad.

I dont think it is dangerous if I still adhere to the basic tenants of Islam.

This is my personal opinion and am not sure if others would agree with it.

I think God has given each of us a brain to judge right from wrong, my deepest concern is not commiting shirk, being aware of what I do and how I do it. As for listening to music etc, I live in the 21st century am 22 years old, use to play the guitar and do still listen to music. I dont consider it to be a BIG deviation. I do understand the reason behind it being looked upon negatively within the Islamic community.

Plus usually saying you follow what makes sense to you leads you to getting accused of following your own desires and being blind, and not being a scholar you have no right to do that etc.

I am not concerned with what others might label me as, I know that nothing is hidden from God and me judging others or vice versa is not going to make a difference in the end. IMO people who are laying accusations should concentrate on bettering themselves, I am open to listening to all sorts of opinions but am aware that not every opinion is binding on me, we are free to choose what makes sense. Do you really think God is concerned with who listens to music more than who commits shirk?

 

[Pastek]

This I can agree with. That's just how things are these days. But then shouldn't it be the visual imagery that is the problem and not the music?

Well, we are going off topic but i will answer, the problem is that now the music and the videos are "one". Since maybe the 80's it's worse and worse and for each new single, people are waiting to see the video which of course is for some artist a new occasion to be naked or vulgar.

I think that in that sense, music (of our era) can lead you astray and corrupt minds.

Anyway, this thread was about salat, so :sorry1:

 

[Taahir]

I dont think it is dangerous if I still adhere to the basic tenants of Islam.

This is my personal opinion and am not sure if others would agree with it.

I think God has given each of us a brain to judge right from wrong, IMO my deepest concern is not commiting shirk, being aware of what I do and how I do it. As for listening to music etc, I live in the 21st century am 22 years old, use to play the guitar and do still listen to music. I dont consider it to be a BIG deviation. I do understand the reason behind it being looked upon negatively within the Islamic community.



I am not concerned with what others might label me as, I know that nothing is hidden from God and me judging others or vice versa is not going to make a difference in the end. IMO people who are laying accusations should concentrate on bettering themselves, I am open to listening to all sorts of opinions but am aware that not every opinion is binding on me, we are free to choose what makes sense. Do you really think God is concerned with who listens to music more than who commits shirk?

Personally I don't, no. But then you're going to get people telling you to not look at any sin as if it is a small sin etc. And that your brain can be corrupted because your heart is corrupted because of the listening to the music and everything else.

Well, we are going off topic but i will answer, the problem is that now the music and the videos are "one". Since maybe the 80's it's worse ans worse and for each new single people are waiting to see the video which of course is for some artist a new occasion to be naked or vulgar.

I think that in that sense, music (of our era) can lead you astray and corrupt minds.

Anyway, this thread was about salat, so :sorry1:

I agree, sorry for taking it off topic, that was my fault.

 

[Pastek]

I agree, sorry for taking it off topic, that was my fault.

Not just yours