How does sin create a virus?

[Wandering Monk]

The virus itself is a natural agent, it did not manifest out of thin air as a result of sin. Nonetheless, traditional Christian belief does hold that God can and will permit natural evils to afflict nations as a chastisement for sin. The more the God is profaned and ignored the more his blessings are withdrawn and the more susceptible we become to being afflicted with various evils such as pandemics or natural disasters.

The belief is not that sin manifested a virus out of nothing, but that God may have permitted this pandemic at least in part as a chastisement of a sinful humanity. And indeed there are numerous passages in the Bible which warn that the protective hand of the divine is partly conditional on man's faithfulness to the divine law. This pandemic should at the very least give us an appreciation for just how fragile our lives are. How fragile our global order really is. An appreciation for our fragility may perhaps inspire some people to turn to God and get their spiritual houses in order. ('Cause you never know when you'll be summoned to meet him directly).

Yeah, God must be pretty pleased with modern humans then, because he is striking us dead with deadly diseases FAR LESS than at any time in human history. And he is allowing us to live longer to boot!

 

[Wandering Monk]

This is IMO non sense.
First, "God" is supposed to have made everything and secondly, all vira undergoes a constant process of mutation in nature and if some humans are having troubles with this, they should optimize their immune system by sound food, motion and social engagements.
IMO vaccination in itself isn´t sufficient enough to boost a immune defense which isn´t OK optimized by natural ways.

Do you know what a naïve immune system is?

 

[shunyadragon]

How does sin create a virus?
. . . belief in ancient mythology.

 

[Rawshak]

Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, in this way death spread to all people, because all sinned. Romans 5:12

Adam brought death into the world through his sin.

In the other thread you agreed sin created viruses can you explain the process please?

 

[Rawshak]

I don't know about sin creating viruses but our sins can cause us to be unwell.

Can you explain that process please?

 

[Wandering Monk]

Can you explain that process please?

An honest Christian would say 'I can't; it's an article of faith." But so many like to dress up their belief in sciency-sounding nonsense. Why the need?

 

[sun rise]

Why pay any attention to what "some Christians" told you (or some of any group)? If some atheists tell you that Christianity is bunkum, would you then accept that?

 

[Rawshak]

Why pay any attention to what "some Christians" told you (or some of any group)? If some atheists tell you that Christianity is bunkum, would you then accept that?

No I would ask them to explain themselves just as I am asking some Christians to explain why sin creates viruses.

 

[Jeremiah Ames]

Further to my thread on the Christian God and coronavirus some Christians informed me that sin was the cause of the coronavirus.

Oh my that’s so sad.

Don’t fall for everything some Christians tell you.

 

[shunyadragon]

Why pay any attention to what "some Christians" told you (or some of any group)? If some atheists tell you that Christianity is bunkum, would you then accept that?

If you were an atheist . . .

 

[SigurdReginson]

You know, I knew some people who believed that if you got sick (like a cold, or a flu), it was because you invited a demon into your body via living in sinful behavior, and that you had to pray for forgiveness and for god to drive away the evil demon that made you sick, and of course to change that sinful behavior that attracted that demon (whatever behavior or sinful thoughts they could find to blame).

Of course, I didn't believe that when I was a Christian, and I thought that group was very superstitious.

 

[Teritos]

In the other thread you agreed sin created viruses can you explain the process please?

The process: Adam sinned and so death came into the world.
That's all I can say.

 

[Rawshak]

The process: Adam sinned and so death came into the world.
That's all I can say.

Why did you say that sin created the virus then? What correlation is there between a virus and sin in order for you to make that statement?

 

[shunyadragon]

The process: Adam sinned and so death came into the world.
That's all I can say.

If that is all you can say than you have an extremely limited ability to comprehend the nature of our physical existence as it is, and the rich diversity of cultures, religions, science, literature and philosophies of the history of humanity.

 

[InChrist]

Further to my thread on the Christian God and coronavirus some Christians informed me that sin was the cause of the coronavirus.

Sin. an immoral act considered to be a transgression against divine law.

Virus. an infective agent that typically consists of a nucleic acid molecule in a protein coat, is too small to be seen by light microscopy, and is able to multiply only within the living cells of a host.

So how does a sin create a virus, what is the process?

Sin did not directly create a virus.
Sin has impacted the good world originally created by God, where everything was functioning properly, to a world where things are not functioning properly.
If the current virus is a result of gain to function research done in a lab, then this would be an example of humans tampering with God’s creation and really messing up.

 

[Vee]

So how does a sin create a virus, what is the process?

I suppose that what they meant was that sin opened the door to imperfection and because we are imperfect we became vulnerable to viruses, bacteria and many other things that wouldn't have caused us any harm had we been perfect.

 

[TransmutingSoul]

Wet Markets have existed all around the world for thousands of years, why do you think the Christian God chose now to kill so many people?

The case you talk about is really unknown. Until the truth is told, there is only going to be speculation.

The More likely investigations have it starting 8 years before in a bat cave and bat poo harvesting for money with poorly protected workers, who became 6 very sick men, 3 of whom passed away and then on to the Wuhan laboratory. Then?

Interestingly America is tied to that Wuhan Laboratory, they handed over the capacity to manipulate viruses to that Lab, that is scary stuff that needs to cease.

However it started, the actions of men after it got hold, despite our abilities in medical science, has allowed it to become a global catastrophic event.

The actions of many people since then likewise allow the spread.

Regards Tony

 

[Teritos]

Why did you say that sin created the virus then?

because the bible says so

 

[DNB]

I think the base idea is that death has been brought to this world by sin. That is also what caused T-Rexes to very fast change their diet from strict vegetarianism, and develop a new set of teeth double quick.

I mean, when people believe the Universe is 6000 years old, that dinos and humans coexisted like in the Flintstones, that women have been literally created with a rib, that serpents can talk and prophets can live three days in a big tuna, etc. etc. etc. ... expecting them to be able to provide some rational arguments to explain the genesis of viruses and their relationship with sin, might be a hopeless endeavour.

Ciao

- viole

C'mon viole, be serious, ...no one said anything about a tuna!

 

[Rawshak]

because the bible says so

I understand you just made it up, strange thing to make up, but it is between your God and you.