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How does your believes/views relate to Multiverse theory?

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
This.

Thought I wonder, is it a theory or an hypothesis?

How has it been supported by any kind of evidence?

I can only wonder how on Earth could you do that falsifiable.

Its hypothetical. But there exist indications towards this possibility (ancient traces of collisions of universes supposedly visible when examining the cosmos, i.e the "cosmic bruises" or "cosmic scars").
 

crazedrat

Member
The multiverse theory is questionable... I don't see it being questioned thoroughly in here though.
If you believe that spacetime is limited, rational and determined (like in a block universe model) than you arrive at the multiverse theory, where every permutation of our limited block-reality is realized in another realm.
But if you believe that spacetime is transcendental and infinite, then you will conclude every physical reality remains completely unique; there is no real boundary by which the universe may begin repeating itself... all boundaries dissolve in infinite.
I side with the 2nd argument and feel like the multiverse theory is a result of mental masturbation.
 
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Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
The multiverse theory is questionable... I don't see it being questioned thoroughly in here though.
If you believe that spacetime is limited, rational and determined (like in a block universe model) than you arrive at the multiverse theory, where every permutation of our limited block-reality is realized in another realm.
But if you believe that spacetime is transcendental and infinite, then you will conclude every physical reality remains completely unique; there is no real boundary by which the universe may begin repeating itself... all boundaries dissolve in infinite.
I side with the 2nd argument and feel like the multiverse theory is a result of mental masturbation.

*claps hands*

Now, proceed to provide us with an alternative.
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
I think Multiverse theory is quite interesting, and also a satisfying theory in its own right to explain the "great beyond". The question is, how do you people, holders of various beliefs and views, regard this theory? Do you find it conflicting or do you find it fitting with your views? I.e, how it relates with God(s), do you have some areligious reason to disagree with it (i.e regarding it as flawed theory), etc? I am interested in how other people see it.

I personally see it perfectly fitting with Buddhist faith, and even as being described in certain passages.

At this particular moment, we are having this exchange. Simultaneously, in another point within another space/time, this exchange is not occurring.
 

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
At this particular moment, we are having this exchange. Simultaneously, in another point within another space/time, this exchange is not occurring.

Indeed. And in some it happens face-to-face. In third, your mother is present. And in fourth, a particular piece of sand in Gobi Desert is lying on another side, compared to its closest parallel universe. In fifth, that Gobi Desert sand piece is lying as in the other three before the fourth, but what sets the fifth apart is the shape of clouds over Central Finland. And so on.
 

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
Too bad that humanity will probably not live up to find out whether any of those are true or not :/
 

Straw Dog

Well-Known Member
I don't know that there are infinite possibilities within any given moment. I do tend to believe in the notion of probable will. Within any moment, there is a certain net range of probabilities in play determined by certain conditions. Nothing is totally determined until a certain threshold of variables fluctuate in a certain direction. It's not an abstract free will or hard determinism.
 
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crazedrat

Member
*claps hands*

Now, proceed to provide us with an alternative.
I'll elaborate..
The transcendental model is based on an infinite void space where consciousness is integral in the expansion of reality. All things emerge out of the void and return to it. The limit is unknown and actually determined according to conscious preference.
 
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s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
I think Multiverse theory is quite interesting, and also a satisfying theory in its own right to explain the "great beyond". The question is, how do you people, holders of various beliefs and views, regard this theory? Do you find it conflicting or do you find it fitting with your views? I.e, how it relates with God(s), do you have some areligious reason to disagree with it (i.e regarding it as flawed theory), etc? I am interested in how other people see it.

I personally see it perfectly fitting with Buddhist faith, and even as being described in certain passages.

As I am deemed "irreligious" by most any of faith based beliefs (and that's ok :)), I'll offer up two answers.

One: Religion does not either inform nor shape any of my views re: scientific posits or theories. The evidence is what it is.

Two: M theory continues to evolve, and offers "multivariate" views...often enough so seemingly divergent to the point of being the utter obverse of one to the other.


And...that's ok.

"I don't know" still seems the most honest answer to recently presented scientific theories and assumed evidences.

I suppose... in direct reply therefore...

..."I don't know".

Neither do you.

Ain't it cool? :)
 

Leftimies

Dwelling in the Principle
As I am deemed "irreligious" by most any of faith based beliefs (and that's ok :)), I'll offer up two answers.

One: Religion does not either inform nor shape any of my views re: scientific posits or theories. The evidence is what it is.

Two: M theory continues to evolve, and offers "multivariate" views...often enough so seemingly divergent to the point of being the utter obverse of one to the other.


And...that's ok.

"I don't know" still seems the most honest answer to recently presented scientific theories and assumed evidences.

I suppose... in direct reply therefore...

..."I don't know".

Neither do you.

Ain't it cool? :)

It is very cool. Would be no fun if I knew, would it? :D
 

crazedrat

Member
As I am deemed "irreligious" by most any of faith based beliefs (and that's ok :)), I'll offer up two answers.

One: Religion does not either inform nor shape any of my views re: scientific posits or theories. The evidence is what it is.

Two: M theory continues to evolve, and offers "multivariate" views...often enough so seemingly divergent to the point of being the utter obverse of one to the other.


And...that's ok.

"I don't know" still seems the most honest answer to recently presented scientific theories and assumed evidences.

I suppose... in direct reply therefore...

..."I don't know".

Neither do you.

Ain't it cool? :)
Here you assert the nonexistence of realities before you formulate your position...
 
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s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
It is very cool. Would be no fun if I knew, would it? :D

Never meant to suggest for a moment any lacking wish that you were sole possessor of "the answer".

I am but a skeptic, and "ALL" claims are subject to the same rigors of logic and proof as any other.

Unless of course you are young. cute, smart, and female. :)
 

s2a

Heretic and part-time (skinny) Santa impersonator
Here you assert the nonexistence of realities before you formulate your position...


I did?

And all along I was simply of the position that extraordinary claims deserve extraordinarily testable evidences as validation.

If you care to engage valid debate...we remain at your service and disposal. :)
 
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