How Does Your Religion Adapt to Scientific Discovery?

[1137]

singularity Big bang theory, for example. I've been advising people to abandon that for ages, search function could find those posts, if you're interested.

There's lots of evidence suggesting a big bang, from the universe having a determinable age to the constant expansion of the universe.

 

[Desert Snake]

There's lots of evidence suggesting a big bang, from the universe having a determinable age to the constant expansion of the universe.

Your welcome to keep your opinion, but my advisement stands.


Ramen

 

[1137]

Your welcome to keep your opinion, but my advisement stands.


Ramen

So which position do you feel is the most evidenced?

 

[whirlingmerc]

In reality, there are many unresolved issues about the Big bang theory... the horizon problem being only one of many, the absence of lots of both matter and antimatter, etc...

 

[Desert Snake]

So which position do you feel is the most evidenced?

Not really interested in debating that, I was giving an example of a theory that I think is wrong; that's the context.

 

[1137]

Not really interested in in debating that, I was giving an example of a theory that I think is wrong; that's the context.

Well why do you think it is wrong, and what would be at least one alternative?

 

[jeager106]

There are plenty of "religious" people that believe in a young earth, that is
6,000 literal years old.
Bring up the fossil record, carbon dating, etc., and these folks will
proclaim that ancient artifacts are faked, planted by those in the service
of Satan, to discredit Special Creation thus people can doubt "God"
is real.
I believe in God, Bible, etc., but accept science and scientific evidence.
I have no idea how Y.E.C. explain away the fossil record.

Here is a bit I copied from Wiki to explain what you already know.

Young Earth creationism (YEC) is the religious belief[1] that the Universe, Earth and all life on Earth were created by direct acts of God less than 10,000 years ago.[2] Its primary adherents are those Christians who subscribe to a literal interpretation of the creation narrative in the Bible's Book of Genesis and believe that God created the Earth in six 24-hour days.[3][4] In contrast to YEC, old Earth creationism is the belief in a metaphorical interpretation of the Book of Genesis and the scientifically-determined estimated ages of the Earth and Universe.[5]

YEC people must be 5 fries shy of a happy meal.

I flat out quit a couple "religious" discussion forums due to the stubborn
and nonsensical belief in a 6,000 year old earth.
Now the Flat Earth Society has things nailed down to perfection!
Dang that Columbus and his "special" day!
Everyone knows the early Catholics had Columbus lie his butt off.

If one cared to google evidence for a young earth there are plenty
of sites full of lies and flawed information.

 

[jeager106]

I was raised a Jehovah's Witness.
In the dark ages of my youth some 60+ years ago it was still taught by the WTB&TS that fossil
records were flawed and carbon dating terribly inaccurate.
T-Rex Fossils were either faked or poorly studied.
I recall young J.W. men & women of college age discouraged to attend college at all.
I was never baptized and when I grew to adult hood seldom attend
the Kingdom Hall.
Good reasons for that in my case.
I committed a terrible indiscretion by becoming a uniformed police
officer.
I was pretty much "shunned" for that so I didn't attend where I was made
to feel "evil" for catching rapists, drug dealers, and robbers.
I guess the "bad" thing was carrying a gun.
A gun that I NEVER fired at another human in 22.5 years of active
police work.
Ahhhh, well so it goes I guess. I must be condemned to some awful
punishment for my promotions and six commendations for valor.
Must be terrible to live with me knowing I SAVED LIVES!
I think I still have a bit of a resentment over that!!!! Ya Think?
Odd that our Police Chaplains were both Catholic and came to me when
I was injured, poisoned, had concussions, been in gun fights, and PRAYED
and gave THANKS to God that I was safe.
Ya know I STILL feel guilty if I enjoy Christmas.

 

[SalixIncendium]

Solar system? no...The origin of the moon, and the variety of planets spinning vastly differently as well as the large magnetic fields and relative warmth of the gas giants says otherwise. The oort cloud remains a speculation

I'm not clear on what point you're trying to argue here. Are you trying to tell me that the moon emits light and was created by God to govern the night? Or are you telling me that the sun and moon revolve around the earth? I'm struggling to grasp what planets' rotation has to do with what we are discussing here. Please clarify.

Evolution? no... no explanation for simple things like life from non life, sexual from asexual, vertebrae form inverter, we see species appear fully formed and a hand is waved and dots connected... and that's not 'science' that's dogma

Google abiogenesis. Y'know what, here ya go...
LMGTFY

Age of the earth? no.. there is conflicting data and not a slam dunk either... helium in zircons from radioactive decay suggests thousands not millions of years, C14 levels in cambrian diamonds is inconsistent with hundreds of millions of years, geological formations appear to be made catastrophically and not slow gradual and uniform as Darwin and Lyell thought. Levels of C14 in coal samples at vastly different claimed geological ages in the grand canyon don't support the classic geological ages.

But what you are calling 'science' is the scientific method and scientific historical approaches PLUS philosophical assumptions of atheism which is a religious philosophy kinda like dealing a card off the bottom of the deck.

Please explain how your findings differ from this "method".

 

[Guy Threepwood]

Recent scientific discoveries/theories have come into conflict with what is written in sacred texts of some religions and will likely continue to do so moving forward. How has your religion adapted to such scientific discoveries? While I understand that select religions blindly hold steadfast to their doctrine, if you subscribe to such a religion, how have you adapted your personal beliefs?

Good point

My father's generation still believed in Piltdown man, that the galaxy might be teeming with ETs, before the gaps and leaps in the fossil record were verified as real, not just 'artifacts of an incomplete record' as was assumed 150 years ago. And before much of what we know know about quantum mechanics, subatomic physics, universal constants, the now well documented fine tuning of reality.

Many atheists simply 'modified' their beliefs during these enlightenments, moving to imaginary infinite probability machines like multiverses etc. to account for them

For me scientific progress proved fatal to the beliefs I was raised with, and I am a skeptic of atheism today.

 

[David T]

Recent scientific discoveries/theories have come into conflict with what is written in sacred texts of some religions and will likely continue to do so moving forward. How has your religion adapted to such scientific discoveries? While I understand that select religions blindly hold steadfast to their doctrine, if you subscribe to such a religion, how have you adapted your personal beliefs?