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How is it you think I am floundering in what I believe? But then, if properly presented, with God's help, I can look at things differently. But how is you think I am floundering in what I believe?
I believe it is. The term "most high" does not have to relate to one entity alone, but the term does designate that someone or something is "most high" in whatever course it takes.
Many students and teachers would give more credence to some commentators of the writings of the scholars than others. As a matter of fact, a beginning definition of seminary is: "A seminary, school of theology, theological seminary, or divinity school is an educational institution for educating students (sometimes called seminarians) in scripture, theology, generally to prepare them for ordination to serve as clergy, in academics, or in Christian ministry"
But the term isn’t talking about the specific relationship between the Persons of the Trinity.
I don’t see how this post addresses mine. Yes, I know very well what the term “seminary” means. I also know what is taught in seminaries. Do you? And, yes, there is wide debate among scholars in the areas of exegesis and theology. Just as there’s wide debate among engineers with regard to automobile making.
I understand your point now, and I will be doing more research on the term "Most High." I can only imagine that all three persons are considered "Most High" by some, although I believe from reading the doctrine(s) that the Son is subordinate to the Father. If you think that makes them equal, all I can say now is: o well. I will continue researching and learning about the term "Most High," taken from the original languages, as well as seeing in what context it's used in the Bible.
Again -- I can look into the works of theologians, many of them are available to the public. I haven't attended a seminary, so can't say right now what is taught in seminaries. But there are different types of seminaries, with different teachers, obviously not all are equal or the same in quality or platform.
Since you said you have association with a seminary, or seminarians, I was curious as to how far it goes and what kind of scholars are there, also if a Catholic seminary is different from a Protestant seminary. Or Jewish seminary.
Most reputable seminaries are accredited by the Association of Theological schools in the Us and Canada, who issue strict guidelines for educational standards, such as curricula, number of hours, education and standing of faculty, etc. Standards are generally the same as for any other graduate program. ATS oversees Protestant, RCC, and Jewish programs. Most schools employ scholars who are published and whose work is peer reviewed.
Also, my seminary did not teach a particular doctrine and did not dictate belief. It did teach how to approach and exegete biblical and extra biblical texts, church history, theology and how to construct theological propositions,
Glad you mentioned that, because I have been investigating, albeit in a cursory sense (and who has time to visit the seminaries as well as research their teachers, beliefs, and courses in a deep way?) the various Catholic seminaries and colleges, as well as Protestant aligned religious institutes of higher education, and now come across the differences, quite profound, of "church," and who was the first Pope. So while some might teach in a rather embracing way, I would say there are large differences in supposed beliefs of these institutions. While philosophy plays a big part, I also wonder if there are courses demonstrating, or showing the existence of God, and the believability of the Bible. Rather than just philosophy.
What you’re talking about is faith and doctrine. That’s not normally what seminaries teach. Most seminaries draw students who already have some sort of faith formation. And seminaries don’t teach just philosophy. As I stated, they also teach theology and biblical exegesis.
I say you are floundering when I read your exchanges with sojourner. It appears that in some areas you are close to agreeing with his fallacy although you may only say similar to “you may have a point on that..’”. And that “point” is close to trinitarianism or pre-existent Jesus. Perhaps you have a notion of pre-existent of Jesus that crosses over with trinity but you do t yet realise it. I notice you didn’t exactly AGREE with my, “Jesus is man, the Last Adam, made in the same fashion as the First Adam” despite it being written clearly in scriptures:
The reason they don’t teach a particular doctrine is because so many people together WOULD see the flaws in any doctrine taught. So don’t teach a doctrine... teach generics and you capture your whole audience and go home with a fantastic pay for the day...
Absolute nonsense! The reason they don’t teach doctrine is because that’s not the purpose of seminary. It has nothing to do with “flaws” or money.
I'm not sure about dictating belief, but my curiosity is aroused with the idea if any of them taught the idea that the God of the Bible is real and true?
Why should they need to do that? Espousing belief isn’t their job. They’re there to train ministers. If one is called to Christian ministry, one should have a fairly well developed faith before applying to the seminary.
I would suppose. But then can one help others to have faith or then what would be the purpose of training? For some reason it sounds very philosophical to me, like if someone becomes a Buddhist expert and practices Buddhism. If Buddhists have seminaries I don't know, maybe they do.
Rubbish... seminars are set up to make money for the speakers and to push a cause. It’s more attractive to have broad based seminars so more people will attend and have them GENERIC so everyone attending THINKS (or maybe actually some do) gain knowledge from it.
This is turning religion into science... Science cannot explain GOD and so will seek to destroy God from religion.