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How ****ed up is this

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
It's no different than bad drug laws that people are sentenced to jail for. People believe certain drugs are bad because they are illegal, and they believe they are illegal because they are bad, this kind of circular reasoning is instilled in people once laws are in place. So who is innocent and who is guilty once bad laws are instilled? We can point fingers at people living in Pakistan but it can happen anywhere.

I'm not seeing this train of thought,drug abuse kills many people every year, how many people get killed directly from words?
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Whenever political power becomes confused with divine righteousness, people die. Usually lots of people in the most horrible and heinous fashion the humans killing them can devise.

Anytime you hear your leader(s) proclaiming that they are authorized to act as the "hand of God", run for your lives, and take everyone you care about with you, because murder and mayhem will soon follow. (edit/deleted by moderator).

I believe God is not malevolent. People who think they are acting in God's interest when they aren't can be quite malevolent.
 

England my lionheart

Rockerjahili Rebel
Premium Member
People get killed due to bad drug laws as well as bad blasphemy laws, they both cause wars against citizenry.

Still not seeing it,drugs are for pleasure, addiction or to fund criminal activities,unless words are hate speech or to incite violence I cannot see the comparison.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
Sure as many of those laws are generalized to any religion. Christians could do the same. However as I said in another post the problem is cultural.

Is it allowed to criticise Christian ideology without being accused of hate?
 

Shad

Veteran Member
Is it allowed to criticise Christian ideology without being accused of hate?

By the law? No. The problem is enforcement and reporting. Many Christians have "thick-skin" after decades of push back thus do not bother making reports to the police. Many Muslims have yet to develop that fortitude.
 

Notanumber

A Free Man
By the law? No. The problem is enforcement and reporting. Many Christians have "thick-skin" after decades of push back thus do not bother making reports to the police. Many Muslims have yet to develop that fortitude.

Would the police take Christians seriously if they did?

Maybe, that is why they do not bother.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Human ego + unquestioned (divine) righteousness = murder and mayhem. Every time.

I sometimes get asked why God speaks to me. Is it because I am special? Strangely enough it took me a while to realize it wasn't this way for everyone. So I suppose I could hike the ego up a bit but why bother? I suppose the reason I don't is that having Jesus as Lord and Savior means that my ego is subservient.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
I don't think they do but the Muslims who follow the Sunnah maybe seem to.

I suppose it is strange thinking to a Christian. I don't see any need to protect the name of Jesus. He is God and can protect Himself. The way I figure it is that most people can separate the truth from the lies and we get equal time to set things straight.
 

Muffled

Jesus in me
Sure as many of those laws are generalized to any religion. Christians could do the same. However as I said in another post the problem is cultural.

i imagine the church did at one time, i believe because it saw itself as the protector of the religion. Seems the religion needed to be protected from them.
 

Shad

Veteran Member
i imagine the church did at one time, i believe because it saw itself as the protector of the religion. Seems the religion needed to be protected from them.

Well those laws were often created during an era which had one denomination was linked to government power. It wasn't about protection but power. European nationalism was often linked to a religion
 
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