How Enlighten Was Buddha

[Gjallarhorn]

It is because Buddhists have not preserved the true history of Buddha; they have different notions; why should Buddha be blamed for things Buddhists or Buddhism have reported wrongly?

Buddha was enlightened one not the Buddhist or Buddhism.

Then any say on what the Buddha truly is has become suspect. Perhaps he was actually an alien, or a leprechaun, or a djinn.

 

[paarsurrey]

Actually I think the Buddha was very thin inside and out.

I think you are right.

 

[paarsurrey]

Simple. It's factual and logical you arose from death. Tell me that isn't so.

When one does not exist; it is like death; every human until conceived did not exist and was born from death.

I agree with you here.

 

[paarsurrey]

No it's not. You don't arise from the dead unless your dead first. You are the enemy of logic and facts.

One will arise in the hereafter after one dies; that is OK.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Buddha is the darkness surrounding enlightenment.

 

[paarsurrey]

Admiring the Buddha makes almost as much sense as having sex with an usher on your wedding night, rather than with your groom. Buddhism does not depend on the personality of the Buddha in the way that Christianity depends so much on the personality of Jesus. At most, the Buddha himself is important because he demonstrated that a human can become enlightened. That's at most. And that was already demonstrated by others before his time. Keep in mind the Zen saying, "If you see the Buddha on the road, kill him!"

Without Buddha there is no Buddhism; Buddha could be without Buddhism.

 

[paarsurrey]

Both the above statements are same.

Elaborate please.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Without Buddha there is no Buddhism; Buddha could be without Buddhism.

And to deny the Buddhist scriptures leaves you with, well, nothing substantial about the life of Siddhartha Gautama or the qualities of the Buddha. So unless you have entered nirvana, how can you speak of Buddha?

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Without Buddha there is no Buddhism; Buddha could be without Buddhism.

I think Buddha would have agreed. Let me ask my lamp.

 

[Twilight Hue]

That's a belief. You cannot escape it. All Buddhist have beliefs.

Hell even i have beliefs even though I follow Meister Eckhart who taught we should strip ourselves of belief.

Experience is not belief. It's directness. Experiences can be embellished however whereas a belief forms, yet that applies towards each individual by way it's interpreted. Belief has nothing to do with the practice of Buddhism in light that it's engauged from the first time the fanny hits the cushion. Once on, never off.

 

[paarsurrey]

But, you know, if Shakespeare lived in our time, he'd be locked up in such an institution, too.

Why? Please

 

[paarsurrey]

The purpose of Būddha's advent was to put an end to animal sacrifices, ordained in the holy Vedās for spiritual upliftment of one's soul, as these had degenerated to slaughter of poor animals, due to man's greed for meat-eating.

Did Buddha say it?

 

[paarsurrey]

Please read the story of Būddha.

Did Buddha write/tell his biography himself?

 

[MysticSang'ha]

I think this thread has offered how many people can interpret the Buddha, Dharma, and Sang'ha in wildly different ways.

 

[Bob Dixon]

Why? Please

Because he'd be too radically different from the norm in our society.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

I think this thread has offered how many people can interpret the Buddha, Dharma, and Sang'ha in wildly different ways.

Glad to be of service.

 

[Vrindavana Das]

Did Buddha say it?

It is common knowledge. Do you know that 'ahīṁṣā' (non-violence) is one of the central teachings of Buddhīsm.

Transcendental Poet Shree Joydev Acharya worshipped Lord Buddha in his prayer song of the ten incarnations of the Personality of Godhead Keshava (Sree Krishna). He sang like this.

"nindasi yajña-vidher ahaha śruti-jātaṁ
sadaya-hṛdaya darśita-paśu-ghātam
keśava dhṛta-buddha-ṣarīra jaya jagadīśa hare"​

Oh my Lord the Personality of Godhead Keshava! all glory unto you; because you have accepted the Body of Lord Buddha-who spoke ill constantly of the animal sacrifices in pursuance of the rites of the Vedic literatures.

 

[Vrindavana Das]

Did Buddha write/tell his biography himself?

Show me your autobiography to confirm you are not a trojjan virus infecting this thread.

 

[paarsurrey]

It is common knowledge. Do you know that 'ahīṁṣā' (non-violence) is one of the central teachings of Buddhīsm.

Please quote from Buddha.

 

[Vrindavana Das]

Please quote from Buddha.

You don't deserve it.

You are just doing time-pass!