How Exactly Did The Russians Influence The U.S. Elections?

[Parchment]

I haven't seen one shred of evidence or heard a good argument that would make me believe that Russians somehow got Trump elected. We do know that the same intelligence agencies that are claiming "the Russians did it!" are the same intelligence agencies that got us into the first Iraq war under false pretenses and have used mass surveillance against it's own people for years and lied about it and now we are supposed to trust them with the claim that somehow Russians manipulated the 2016 U.S. election. I'd say there is probably far more evidence and a better case to be made that many of our own domestic media sources attempted to overtly and covertly manipulate public opinion influencing the election in Clinton's favor rather than Russia in Trumps.

 

[Rival]

They probably didn't.

 

[Lyndon]

The election was so close(except in the popular vote) That the wikileaks hacks alone were enough to throw the election in Trumps favour, and now the CIA says they have conclusive evidence those hacks were coming form the Russian government, there, I showed you how the Russians threw the election, now go talk your Trump nonsense somewhere else!!

 

[Neo Deist]

The Russians supposedly hacked the DNC and released information to wikileaks that was damaging to Hillary and her campaign. In other words, they let the truth be known and it swayed people away from her for all the right reasons.

 

[Quetzal]

I haven't seen one shred of evidence or heard a good argument that would make me believe that Russians somehow got Trump elected.

There is so much noise around this. I am like you, I can't tell heads from tails in regards to what is actually supported by the evidence. It is tough to discern between sour grapes from facts in regards to this topic.

 

[Scuba Pete]

I haven't seen one shred of evidence

It's hard to see evidence when you're so busy denying it has happened.

What we know about Russia's role in the DNC email leak

Here's the truth: you've been conned. You've been conned by Trump and the Russkies helped. You've elected the one candidate supported by bigots and communists alike. The irony isn't lost on the world. The only clueless peeps are those who've been taken.

 

[Revoltingest]

It's hard to see evidence when you're so busy denying it has happened.

What we know about Russia's role in the DNC email leak

Here's the truth: you've been conned. You've been conned by Trump and the Russkies helped. You've elected the one candidate supported by bigots and communists alike. The irony isn't lost on the world. The only clueless peeps are those who've been taken.

Your link is short on names & specific claims.
But it's loaded with "weasel words, disclaimers & speculation"....

"...if a foreign government is trying to covertly influence the presidential election."
".... there seems to be widespread agreement among cybersecurity experts and professionals that the attribution belongs to Russian intelligence actors.
"Whether Russia hacked the DNC intending to affect the election remains unknown."
"The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC is at this point very strong, albeit not unanimous," said cybersecurity consultant Matt Tait, who has been critical of Clinton’s email practices.
"The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC in support of Trump is, by contrast, plausible, but something for which the jury at this stage is very much still out."
"The tactics of the hack resembled traits of two Russian intelligence groups..."
"The consensus that Russia hacked the DNC in support of Trump is, by contrast, plausible, but something for which the jury at this stage is very much still out."

"Resembled", "unknown", "plausible", etc....this is your incontrovertible evidence?
It's possible the Russians did it....for which I'd thank them.
It's possible we do it to them too....although I don't Putin is grateful.
But this is not knowledge or fact.
Even the Washington Post has had to back off on its aggressive claims,
due to severe criticism from others in the (leftish) media.....
Washington Post Appends "Russian Propaganda Fake News" Story, Admits It May Be Fake | Zero Hedge

A compelling desire to believe can lead to.....you know....
Faith is not just for religious belief.

 

[Sunstone]

I haven't seen one shred of evidence or heard a good argument that would make me believe that Russians somehow got Trump elected. We do know that the same intelligence agencies that are claiming "the Russians did it!" are the same intelligence agencies that got us into the first Iraq war under false pretenses and have used mass surveillance against it's own people for years and lied about it and now we are supposed to trust them with the claim that somehow Russians manipulated the 2016 U.S. election. I'd say there is probably far more evidence and a better case to be made that many of our own domestic media sources attempted to overtly and covertly manipulate public opinion influencing the election in Clinton's favor rather than Russia in Trumps.

Dude, you were taken for a ride, suckered, made a fool of -- understand? The fact that you're still even now willing to be taken for a further ride, willing to still be suckered, willing to still be made a fool of speaks volumes. Whole ****ing volumes.

 

[Parchment]

Dude, you were taken for a ride, suckered, made a fool of -- understand? The fact that you're still even now willing to be taken for a further ride, willing to still be suckered, willing to still be made a fool of speaks volumes. Whole ****ing volumes.

Just for the record, I voted for Gary Johnson
The fact that you have presented absolutely no evidence or arguments proving the Russians influenced anything and resorted to petty insults and innuendo speaks volumes about your position, I'd expect more from a long time staff member. Before you reply again please include some type of plausible argument.

 

[Lyndon]

The question I want to know is why are all the Satanists so happy that Trump won the election, is it something to do with their agenda????

 

[columbus]

I haven't seen one shred of evidence or heard a good argument that would make me believe that Russians somehow got Trump elected.

Of course not. The "Email Gate" style of investigation and months of Senate hearings and testimony have only just begun.
You just ignoring the evidence and arguments currently being made. Seems more than a bit partisan.

Frankly, if an enemy super power helped get Trump elected Trump should be impeached. That certainly is a bigger deal than a BJ from an intern.
Tom

 

[Kuzcotopia]

I'd say there is probably far more evidence and a better case to be made that many of our own domestic media sources attempted to overtly and covertly manipulate public opinion influencing the election in Clinton's favor rather than Russia in Trumps.

Put your money where you mouth is.

What is your evidence?

 

[Parchment]

It's hard to see evidence when you're so busy denying it has happened.

It's even harder to create a conclusive case when there is little to no evidence to back it up.

 

[Revoltingest]

Just for the record, I voted for Gary Johnson
The fact that you have presented absolutely no evidence or arguments proving the Russians influenced anything and resorted to petty insults and innuendo speaks volumes about your position, I'd expect more from a long time staff member. Before you reply again please include some type of plausible argument.

I notice that the believers have no evidence to offer....only speculation based upon secret evidence.
Thus, we see only ad hominem attacks...."dupe", "ignoring the evidence", "fool", "suckered", "Trump
nonsense", "conned", etc, etc. They could be right. But they've bought into certainty prematurely.

 

[Revoltingest]

Put your money where you mouth is.

What is your evidence?

If I may jump in here, I have this one interesting tidbit of likely media efforts in Hillary's favor.....
Hacked emails suggest Trump was right after all: Clinton got previews of some debate questions

 

[Lyndon]

This is the CIA we're talking about, even under Obama a right of centre organization, and they have evidence Russia hacked the DNC, and you have "evidence" they didn't, who are you going to believe???

 

[MD]

Almost looks like a soft coup is taking place in the U.S.

 

[Revoltingest]

This is the CIA we're talking about, even under Obama a right of centre organization, and they have evidence Russia hacked the DNC, and you have "evidence" they didn't, who are you going to believe???

No one here has claimed evidence the Russians did not do as you claim.
But you're the one leaping to belief, based upon evidence which even
the supposed experts are only speculating Russian hacking.
it's like asking me to believe in Allah because I've no proof he isn't God.

I don't believe US gov claims the Ruskies did it, and
I don't believe Russian claims they didn't do it.

 

[Parchment]

This is the CIA we're talking about, even under Obama a right of centre organization, and they have evidence Russia hacked the DNC, and you have "evidence" they didn't, who are you going to believe???

Isn't the C.I.A. the same organization that lied to the White House, Congress, and Britain over global torture programs?

 

[Lyndon]

All I'm saying is if a right wing organization mostly made up of Republicans like the CIA is saying they have evidence the Russians hacked the DNC, it less likely that Republicans would make up something like that, though I wouldn't put it past the CIA to make up just about anything!!