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how EXACTLY the future Baha'i government would be set up and how it will function.

George-ananda

Advaita Vedanta, Theosophy, Spiritualism
Premium Member
And you think this is acceptable?
I was just describing the Baha'i position, not my personal opinion. However, I do not think such a system will ever come to pass as it is so conceived. For it to be acceptable it would require very close to the entire human race becoming Baha'i and believing in the divine guidance.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
The primary present goal is that the Baha'i principles become the standard for laws and cultures of the countries. This is what is happening in most of the world particularly the Western countries. Some of the principles are becoming the standard of the world through the United Nations.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Thanks for starting the thread @shunyadragon. I just now saw it. I see some type of explanation has been started but I still don't see details of what laws would be enforced or how and by whom, what role the Bahai government will have within the larger world,

If the population of a country becomes Baha'i, which I doubt in any time in the immediate future, the Baha'i government would not function nor be much different than many of the democracies of the world. In the foreseeable future the Baha'i administrative order is for Baha'is only, unless appealed to arbitrate between other groups and countries. The obligation to observe Baha'i principles, laws, and decisions of the Baha'i administrative order is members of the Baha'i Faith, and remains voluntary. Primary obligation of all Baha'is remains the laws of the government in the country they live.

What purpose will they serve if not involved in politics, . . .

Baha'is all over the world are involved in non-partisan government opportunities. they vote, and are involved in many organization around the world that promote Baha'i ideals.

Considering the nature of political parties and politics I am grateful for the guidance to stay away from the divisive sometimes violent world of politics in many countries.

I will be interested in reading more as the thread progresses. I'm sure the other Bahais here have information to add as well. Will there be islands of Bahai communities within other countries? Or will they have their own country where only Bahais live? If they are not involved in politics, how will representation of individual Bahais work? What are the representatives, if there are any, be doing to represent? There must be a grand plan somewhere or otherwise what is the point of sharing Bahai ideas in hopes others eventually become Bahai's?

I'm sure I will have more questions so I look forward to reading what people have to say.

Baha'is do share their ideals with the rest of the world through their lives and participation with the organizations that promote their ideals. The Baha'is were involved in the formation of the United Nations as non-governmental organizations.

From: https://www.bic.org/offices/united-nations

The Bahá'í International Community’s United Nations Offices represent the worldwide Bahá'í community at the UN and in other international fora, including those organized by global civil society. Our vision is rooted in the sacred scriptures of the Bahá'í Faith, which state that all human beings “have been created to carry forward an ever-advancing civilization.” We believe that every person, every community, and every nation has a part to play in building a peaceful and prosperous global society.

Our UN Offices contribute to discourses at the international level about how to realize such a society. We seek to promote a culture of cooperation and collaboration through principled and constructive interactions with diplomats, UN officials, NGO representatives, and others. We are committed to joining with others in the collective search for more effective ways to address problems of global concern.

Within the context of the UN, the BIC is recognized as an international NGO, with affiliates in over 180 countries and territories, which together represent a cross-section of humanity. The BIC engages with the UN, its member states, as well as with inter-governmental and non-governmental organizations. The Office registered with the UN as an NGO recognized by the Department of Public Information in 1948 and, in 1970, was granted Consultative Status with the UN Economic and Social Council (ECOSOC). Formal associations with other UN agencies followed: the UN Environmental Programme (UNEP) in 1974; the UN Children’s Fund (UNICEF) in 1976; and the (former) UN Development Fund for Women (UNIFEM). Over the years, the BIC has worked closely with the Offices of the High Commissioner for Human Rights and the High Commissioner for Refugees, the UN Educational, Scientific and Cultural Organization (UNESCO). In addition, today, the New York Office collaborates with UN Women on a regular basis.

BIC delegates from around the world have participated in major UN conferences and international gatherings—in particular, those related to gender equality, human rights, as well as social and sustainable development.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
Thank you for your reply. I have read before about the many talks they participate in. Brainstorming and speeches are important. And I also searched in the past to find actual field work or financial support for implementing plans discussed at conventions and meetings but had no luck.

I still have no idea how a Bahai world would function day to day in reality but it's not that important as it won't happen anyway as you have noted. What I could glean from the religious writings has little to do with what you explained above so I guess it will remain a great mystery.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Thank you for your reply. I have read before about the many talks they participate in. Brainstorming and speeches are important. And I also searched in the past to find actual field work or financial support for implementing plans discussed at conventions and meetings but had no luck.

I still have no idea how a Bahai world would function day to day in reality but it's not that important as it won't happen anyway as you have noted. What I could glean from the religious writings has little to do with what you explained above so I guess it will remain a great mystery.

You are not likely to find much on a 'dumb' internet search, but National Spiritually Assemblies pretty much all have public service projects, and encourage Baha'is to participate in international projects particularly those associated with th eUN. I know one Iranian doctor who works with Doctors without borders.

Baha'is worldwide are more involved with interfaith involvement in their own country or locality. Locally where I live some Baha'is are involved with the Orange County Interfaith Missions collecting and distributing food to the lower income and elderly. I am also involved with the Anathoth community garden that does the same thing with fresh farm produce,

The National Spiritual Assembly of the USA is sponsoring at least on for the blind and the handicapped.

Baha'i Service For The Blind - SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES

BAHA'I SERVICE FOR THE BLIND

SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES

The Service for the Blind has a need of Bahá'í volunteers [non-paying] who live in the United States to help in the following areas:



BRAILLE PROOFREADERS

We have a need for Bahá'ís to proofread books in Braille. You do not need to be a certified proofreader, but you need to have a good knowledge of the Braille code and be a proficient Braille reader. You should be able to devote an average of 2 – 3 accumlative hours a week to this work. If you would like to offer your services, please contact us and tell us about yourself and your ability to offer time for this work, how long you have been reading Braille, etc.


SIGHTED BRAILLE PROCESSORS

We need sighted Bahá'ís who know or are willing to learn Braille (it is read "visually") to help prepare books in Braille. We scan books into a computer file and then import it into a Braille translation program. The file must be put into correct Braille formats and generally checked for translation errors. You would be working with both the print and Braille files. You should be able to devote at least 2 – 4 accumlative hours a week to this work. A correspondence course for learning the Braille code system is given through the Bahá'í Service for the Blind. We will provide a Brailler and paper.



READERS


We have a need for persons to record materials. All recording work is to be done digitally usually using a recording program on computer. The completed recording would be converted to mp3 format and either uploaded via internet or sent on a flash drive. Volunteers should expect to spend at least two hours a week doing this work.

We also have a need for individuals who would like to work on editing recordings. This requires listening to a recording and removing errors, inserting spaces, etc. Volunteers should expect to spend at least two hours a week doing this work.

Anyone interested should contact us: [email protected] for further information.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
You are not likely to find much on a 'dumb' internet search, but National Spiritually Assemblies pretty much all have public service projects, and encourage Baha'is to participate in international projects particularly those associated with th eUN. I know one Iranian doctor who works with Doctors without borders.

Baha'is worldwide are more involved with interfaith involvement in their own country or locality. Locally where I live some Baha'is are involved with the Orange County Interfaith Missions collecting and distributing food to the lower income and elderly. I am also involved with the Anathoth community garden that does the same thing with fresh farm produce,

The National Spiritual Assembly of the USA is sponsoring at least on for the blind and the handicapped.

Baha'i Service For The Blind - SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES

BAHA'I SERVICE FOR THE BLIND

SERVICE OPPORTUNITIES

The Service for the Blind has a need of Bahá'í volunteers [non-paying] who live in the United States to help in the following areas:



BRAILLE PROOFREADERS

We have a need for Bahá'ís to proofread books in Braille. You do not need to be a certified proofreader, but you need to have a good knowledge of the Braille code and be a proficient Braille reader. You should be able to devote an average of 2 – 3 accumlative hours a week to this work. If you would like to offer your services, please contact us and tell us about yourself and your ability to offer time for this work, how long you have been reading Braille, etc.


SIGHTED BRAILLE PROCESSORS

We need sighted Bahá'ís who know or are willing to learn Braille (it is read "visually") to help prepare books in Braille. We scan books into a computer file and then import it into a Braille translation program. The file must be put into correct Braille formats and generally checked for translation errors. You would be working with both the print and Braille files. You should be able to devote at least 2 – 4 accumlative hours a week to this work. A correspondence course for learning the Braille code system is given through the Bahá'í Service for the Blind. We will provide a Brailler and paper.



READERS


We have a need for persons to record materials. All recording work is to be done digitally usually using a recording program on computer. The completed recording would be converted to mp3 format and either uploaded via internet or sent on a flash drive. Volunteers should expect to spend at least two hours a week doing this work.

We also have a need for individuals who would like to work on editing recordings. This requires listening to a recording and removing errors, inserting spaces, etc. Volunteers should expect to spend at least two hours a week doing this work.

Anyone interested should contact us: [email protected] for further information.

I assure you my research was all on the official Bahai site. Try following one idea such as do Bahai give money to the poor or do Bahai build houses for homeless. Or how do BahaI help starving counties in the feild. Or where does the money and assets go from Bahai member death gifts. Just using the official Bahia site. You will be danced around in so many circles your head will spin. It's kind of humorous actually. It all comes down to talking for the most part. I do see you found requests for people to translate braiiel into what? Let me guess, Bahai spiritual writings?

That's great you locally provide farmer market goods to the poor but one hardly needs to be a follow of the Bahia prophet to do that. I just don't see the draw.

Anyway, thanks for the convo.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I assure you my research was all on the official Bahai site. Try following one idea such as do Bahai give money to the poor or do Bahai build houses for homeless. Or how do BahaI help starving counties in the feild. Or where does the money and assets go from Bahai member death gifts. Just using the official Bahia site. You will be danced around in so many circles your head will spin. It's kind of humorous actually. It all comes down to talking for the most part. I do see you found requests for people to translate braiiel into what? Let me guess, Bahai spiritual writings?

That's great you locally provide farmer market goods to the poor but one hardly needs to be a follow of the Bahia prophet to do that. I just don't see the draw.

Anyway, thanks for the convo.

The Baha'i LSAs of Orange County and Hillsborough are involved sponsors in Orange County Interfaith Missions a commercial scale food distribution service for low income and elderly. Anothoth Garden raises and distributes fresh food on two large farms.

Your blanket condemnation makes it clear you have a hostile agenda from the beginning.


Tireless searching Baha'i websites in numbing ten foot pole manner will likely get you nowhere in part because you have no personal experience with the Baha'i Faith and how it functions.. As I said that the Baha'is participate in and fund many interfaith organizations that help the poor and others in need. I gave some documented examples, and you flip me off, which reflects a hostile agenda on your part. Each NSA and LSA in the world has their own goals and projects as referenced in the next post.

I can give you other examples, some I can document as I have previously on the National Spiritual Assembly level, and personal examples, and since I have been a Baha'i for more than 50 years examples are not hard to come by: Interfaith organizations such as Habitat for Humanity, the food distribution I mentioned as common ways Baha'is are involved. Cooperative interfaith organizations are more productive I am a good carpenter and plumber, and I have volunteered with Habitat for Humanity almost since it expanded to a national organization. Before that I was involved in a small non-profit rehab organization in West Virginia that did small improvements in homes owned by low income families in West Virginia with other local Baha'is. Other Baha'is were also volunteered with me over the history of my participation with Habitat for Humanity.

I do not believe your search went past the tip of your nose.
 
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shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
I assure you my research was all on the official Bahai site. Try following one idea such as do Bahai give money to the poor or do Bahai build houses for homeless. Or how do BahaI help starving counties in the feild. Or where does the money and assets go from Bahai member death gifts. Just using the official Bahia site. You will be danced around in so many circles your head will spin. It's kind of humorous actually. It all comes down to talking for the most part. I do see you found requests for people to translate braiiel into what? Let me guess, Bahai spiritual writings?

That's great you locally provide farmer market goods to the poor but one hardly needs to be a follow of the Bahia prophet to do that. I just don't see the draw.

Anyway, thanks for the convo.

The following also reflects my experience previously described:

From: Socio-economic development - Bahaikipedia, an encyclopedia about the Bahá’í Faith

"Socio-economic development
Since its inception the Bahá'í Faith has had involvement in socio-economic development beginning by giving greater freedom to women,[1] promulgating the promotion of female education as a priority concern,[2] and that involvement was given practical expression by creating schools, agricultural coops, and clinics.[1]

The accelerated growth of the worldwide community in the 1960s-1980s expanded it with a large number of poor, illiterate villagers and tribal peoples in India, Africa and South America, which meant an enormous challenge for the social and economic development of communities. According to the Bahá'í teachings, development should increase people’s self-reliance, communal solidarity, giving access to knowledge, and, where possible, removing sources of injustice. Spiritual, moral and material development should be linked together.[3]

The religion entered a new phase of activity when a message of the Universal House of Justice dated 20 October 1983 was released.[4] The Office of Social and Economic Development was established[5] and Bahá'ís were urged to seek out ways, compatible with the Bahá'í teachings]], in which they could become involved in the social and economic development of the communities in which they lived. Worldwide in 1979 there were 129 officially recognized Bahá'í socio-economic development projects. By 1987, the number of officially recognized development projects had increased to 1482.[4]

Examples of short-term projects are health camps, training seminars, tree-planting and environmental clean-up projects. Long-term projects include literacy, health care, agricultural and environmental projects. Most of the projects are schools, which range from village tutorial schools to large secondary schools, and some universities.[3]

The Bahá'í International Community, an international non-governmental organization, maintains a presence devoted to supporting and coordinating socio-development activities at the United Nations as well as presenting papers and reports of activities of the religion to UN agencies.[6] Bahá'ís and interested parties have participated in an annual conference since 1999 sponsored by the Rabbani Charitable Trust in Orlando Florida.[7] The Bahá'í Chair for World Peace is located at the Center for International Development and Conflict Management under the auspices of the College of Behavorial and Social Sciences at the University of Maryland.[8]

A recent development has been the Dawn Breakers International Film Festival which showcases films from around the globe about the social aspects of human life.[9]"
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
The following also reflects my experience previously described:

From: Socio-economic development - Bahaikipedia, an encyclopedia about the Bahá’í Faith

"Socio-economic development
Since its inception the Bahá'í Faith has had involvement in socio-economic development beginning by giving greater freedom to women,[1] promulgating the promotion of female education as a priority concern,[2] and that involvement was given practical expression by creating schools, agricultural coops, and clinics.[1]

The accelerated growth of the worldwide community in the 1960s-1980s expanded it with a large number of poor, illiterate villagers and tribal peoples in India, Africa and South America, which meant an enormous challenge for the social and economic development of communities. According to the Bahá'í teachings, development should increase people’s self-reliance, communal solidarity, giving access to knowledge, and, where possible, removing sources of injustice. Spiritual, moral and material development should be linked together.[3]

The religion entered a new phase of activity when a message of the Universal House of Justice dated 20 October 1983 was released.[4] The Office of Social and Economic Development was established[5] and Bahá'ís were urged to seek out ways, compatible with the Bahá'í teachings]], in which they could become involved in the social and economic development of the communities in which they lived. Worldwide in 1979 there were 129 officially recognized Bahá'í socio-economic development projects. By 1987, the number of officially recognized development projects had increased to 1482.[4]

Examples of short-term projects are health camps, training seminars, tree-planting and environmental clean-up projects. Long-term projects include literacy, health care, agricultural and environmental projects. Most of the projects are schools, which range from village tutorial schools to large secondary schools, and some universities.[3]

The Bahá'í International Community, an international non-governmental organization, maintains a presence devoted to supporting and coordinating socio-development activities at the United Nations as well as presenting papers and reports of activities of the religion to UN agencies.[6] Bahá'ís and interested parties have participated in an annual conference since 1999 sponsored by the Rabbani Charitable Trust in Orlando Florida.[7] The Bahá'í Chair for World Peace is located at the Center for International Development and Conflict Management under the auspices of the College of Behavorial and Social Sciences at the University of Maryland.[8]

A recent development has been the Dawn Breakers International Film Festival which showcases films from around the globe about the social aspects of human life.[9]"
Okay, if you insist . We can take it one question at a time.

#1 Baha'i.org how many students are currently in "baha'i" schools around the world?


This was my exact search on Google. Let's see what if you are able to find the schools, where they are exactly, and what are the offered curriculums? This should be an easy one but I had a zero luck investigation.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Okay, if you insist . We can take it one question at a time.

#1 Baha'i.org how many students are currently in "baha'i" schools around the world?


This was my exact search on Google. Let's see what if you are able to find the schools, where they are exactly, and what are the offered curriculums? This should be an easy one but I had a zero luck investigation.

Your not going to find this for the Baha'i Faith nor any other church or religion in the world. Every NSA, and LSA around the world has their own programs. Most local around the world programs I know of, other than deepening programs for the Baha'i writings, are based on literacy and health education. In the USA I know they have a national program for the Blind.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
Your not going to find this for the Baha'i Faith nor any other church or religion in the world. Every NSA, and LSA around the world has their own programs. Most local around the world programs I know of, other than deepening programs for the Baha'i writings, are based on literacy and health education. In the USA I know they have a national program for the Blind.


This annual report presents national data on Catholic elementary and secondary schools. Enrollment patterns, regional geographic trends, types and locations of schools, student and staffing demographic characteristics and student participation in selected education programs are reported. Where data permit, the exhibits compare information across the last decade as well as the past five years. 404 has over 16 million high school students. Of these, about 1.3 million attend 12,000 private high schools, the majority of which are religiously affiliated and explicitly Christian (see ref1and ref2).

In this article, TheBestSchools.org showcases what we regard as the 50 best Christian high schools in the United States. This is not a ranking---the order of schools is alphabetical.

In selecting Christian high schools for inclusion on this list, we used the following criteria:

The 50 Best Christian High Schools in America

That took 2 seconds for each search. So um, no. Trust me when I say you cannot find out anything about the FACTS of Baha'i operations, activities, schools, leaders lives, money, future plans or field work. You can try for any of those if you wish but I'd bet your will you won't find anything but double speak and circular links. The only facts, maybe available, are about how many speeches they have given at UN meetings and "talks" they may participate in.

I know what I'm talking about as I have independently investigated Baha'I probably more than most Baha'i.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from believing what ever they want. I'm just presenting what I have discovered about this particular belief system. It's a waste of money and resources. And the prophet is a Johnny come lately with ideas any humanist knows and follows. The only difference is the endless added gobbly gook about praying, dressing, and worshiping his overblown, hyperactive, manic ego.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
This annual report presents national data on Catholic elementary and secondary schools. Enrollment patterns, regional geographic trends, types and locations of schools, student and staffing demographic characteristics and student participation in selected education programs are reported. Where data permit, the exhibits compare information across the last decade as well as the past five years. 404 has over 16 million high school students. Of these, about 1.3 million attend 12,000 private high schools, the majority of which are religiously affiliated and explicitly Christian (see ref1and ref2).

In this article, TheBestSchools.org showcases what we regard as the 50 best Christian high schools in the United States. This is not a ranking---the order of schools is alphabetical.

In selecting Christian high schools for inclusion on this list, we used the following criteria:

The 50 Best Christian High Schools in America

That took 2 seconds for each search. So um, no. Trust me when I say you cannot find out anything about the FACTS of Baha'i operations, activities, schools, leaders lives, money, future plans or field work. You can try for any of those if you wish but I'd bet your will you won't find anything but double speak and circular links. The only facts, maybe available, are about how many speeches they have given at UN meetings and "talks" they may participate in.

This is a foolish response. You demand exact numbers of Baha'i schools, numbers of students, and what they teach, and than respond with a source of 'ONLY' describing the 50 Best Christian High Schools in America, so what?!?!?!!?!?!?!

It still remains a fact that you cannot provide what you demand for the Baha'i Faith for any church nor religion in the world.

I know what I'm talking about as I have independently investigated Baha'I probably more than most Baha'i.

No you have apparently not! Actually, a source you are apparently not researched is the volumes of the Baha'i World that describe Baha'i schools in the 20th qnd 21st century.

You simply ignore or castigate and sarcastically minimalize my references, which you apparently were not aware of.

I'm not trying to dissuade anyone from believing what ever they want.

Not an issue here, but apparently your goal based on your hostile agenda concerning the Baha'i Faith.

I'm just presenting what I have discovered about this particular belief system. It's a waste of money and resources. And the prophet is a Johnny come lately with ideas any humanist knows and follows. The only difference is the endless added gobbly gook about praying, dressing, and worshiping his overblown, hyperactive, manic ego.

This clearly reflects your hostile vindictive agenda towards the Baha'i Faith, based on your one sided religious agenda. Ignoring my references and demanding what you cannot provide for other religions and churches, is your modus operandi.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
This is a foolish response. You demand exact numbers of Baha'i schools, numbers of students, and what they teach, and than respond with a source of 'ONLY' describing the 50 Best Christian High Schools in America, so what?!?!?!!?!?!?!

It still remains a fact that you cannot provide what you demand for the Baha'i Faith for any church nor religion in the world.



No you have apparently not! Actually, a source you are apparently not researched is the volumes of the Baha'i World that describe Baha'i schools in the 20th qnd 21st century.

You simply ignore or castigate and sarcastically minimalize my references, which you apparently were not aware of.



Not an issue here, but apparently your goal based on your hostile agenda concerning the Baha'i Faith.



This clearly reflects your hostile vindictive agenda towards the Baha'i Faith, based on your one sided religious agenda. Ignoring my references and demanding what you cannot provide for other religions and churches, is your modus operandi.
 

wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
This is a foolish response. You demand exact numbers of Baha'i schools, numbers of students, and what they teach, and than respond with a source of 'ONLY' describing the 50 Best Christian High Schools in America, so what?!?!?!!?!?!?!

It still remains a fact that you cannot provide what you demand for the Baha'i Faith for any church nor religion in the world.



No you have apparently not! Actually, a source you are apparently not researched is the volumes of the Baha'i World that describe Baha'i schools in the 20th qnd 21st century.

You simply ignore or castigate and sarcastically minimalize my references, which you apparently were not aware of.



Not an issue here, but apparently your goal based on your hostile agenda concerning the Baha'i Faith.



This clearly reflects your hostile vindictive agenda towards the Baha'i Faith, based on your one sided religious agenda. Ignoring my references and demanding what you cannot provide for other religions and churches, is your modus operandi.
Look. You are the one who ignored or evaded every question I asked or point I made. I never said one mean or nasty thing about you. I only stated facts about what I have learned about your religion.

Just because you disagree with me is not a reason to go off the deep end and start saying nasty things about me.

What this is is an example of the not so nice Baha'i victimhood attitude when someone presents evidence which contradicts their talking points. You turn nasty and personal. No thanks.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Look. You are the one who ignored or evaded every question I asked or point I made. I never said one mean or nasty thing about you. I only stated facts about what I have learned about your religion.

Just because you disagree with me is not a reason to go off the deep end and start saying nasty things about me.

What this is is an example of the not so nice Baha'i victimhood attitude when someone presents evidence which contradicts their talking points. You turn nasty and personal. No thanks.

I answered all your questions with references and you ignored them.

Your description goes further, and degrades and insults the religion I belong to, which the motivation of the persecution of the Baha'i Faith.

'm just presenting what I have discovered about this particular belief system. It's a waste of money and resources. And the prophet is a Johnny come lately with ideas any humanist knows and follows. The only difference is the endless added gobbly gook about praying, dressing, and worshiping his overblown, hyperactive, manic ego.

Representative of the hostile agenda toward the Baha'i Faith. Based on this you are not wandering peacefully.
 
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wandering peacefully

Which way to the woods?
I answered all your questions with references and you ignored them.

Your description goes further, and degrades and insults the religion I belong to, which the motivation of the persecution of the Baha'i Faith.



Representative of the hostile agenda toward the Baha'i Faith. Based on this you are not wandering peacefully.

Again with the personal insults. You seem to have a hard time controlling that aspect of your religious life.

I assure you I am totally peaceful. Just not gullible or very accepting of nonsense and doublespeak. And I still have no idea how exactly a Baha'I new world order would work. But it's not that important to me so I'm done

Good day.
 

shunyadragon

shunyadragon
Premium Member
Again with the personal insults. You seem to have a hard time controlling that aspect of your religious life.

You mean like this . . .

I'm just presenting what I have discovered about this particular belief system. It's a waste of money and resources. And the prophet is a Johnny come lately with ideas any humanist knows and follows. The only difference is the endless added gobbly gook about praying, dressing, and worshiping his overblown, hyperactive, manic ego.

I assure you I am totally peaceful.

Not based on the above quote.

Just not gullible or very accepting of nonsense and doublespeak. And I still have no idea how exactly a Baha'I new world order would work. But it's not that important to me so I'm done

Good day.

Reflects your a priori hostility against the Baha'i Faith in the above quote. Not so peaceful.

Have a good day
 
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