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How far back is it possible to trace one's family history?

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member
Uther Pendragon:
Birth abt. 410
Gaule Armoricane, Bretagne, France

Wife: Ygerna (Elgr) Verch Amlawdd Lady of Arderte; Queen of Britain

Children:
Madog Pendragon
Gancie de bretagne
Ealine Verch Gwyrlys
King Arthur Meridoc, Prince of Britain (Isle of Avalon)
Bedivere (Pendragon) Britain Sir
Gwyar (Pendragon) Ab Uther Prince of Britain
Perweur Verch Rhys
Anna (Margawse) Pendragon Princess of Britain Queen of Gododdin
Gwyar ferch Uthr
Aurelius Arthur Arturius
Anna Marawse Pendragon
Elen (Anna)

Forgive the duplicate information.

Thanks for pointing that out that is pretty neat learning about all these people I didn't know I am "claimed" to be related to.
I am "claimed" to be the super great nephew of King Arthur. I had no idea! :D
 

Koldo

Outstanding Member
Uther Pendragon:
Birth abt. 410
Gaule Armoricane, Bretagne, France

Wife: Ygerna (Elgr) Verch Amlawdd Lady of Arderte; Queen of Britain

Children:
Madog Pendragon
Gancie de bretagne
Ealine Verch Gwyrlys
King Arthur Meridoc, Prince of Britain (Isle of Avalon)
Bedivere (Pendragon) Britain Sir
Gwyar (Pendragon) Ab Uther Prince of Britain
Perweur Verch Rhys
Anna (Margawse) Pendragon Princess of Britain Queen of Gododdin
Gwyar ferch Uthr
Aurelius Arthur Arturius
Anna Marawse Pendragon
Elen (Anna)

Forgive the duplicate information.

Thanks for pointing that out that is pretty neat learning about all these people I didn't know I am "claimed" to be related to.
I am "claimed" to be the super great nephew of King Arthur. I had no idea! :D

Source?
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Uther Pendragon:
Birth abt. 410
Gaule Armoricane, Bretagne, France

Wife: Ygerna (Elgr) Verch Amlawdd Lady of Arderte; Queen of Britain

Children:
Madog Pendragon
Gancie de bretagne
Ealine Verch Gwyrlys
King Arthur Meridoc, Prince of Britain (Isle of Avalon)
Bedivere (Pendragon) Britain Sir
Gwyar (Pendragon) Ab Uther Prince of Britain
Perweur Verch Rhys
Anna (Margawse) Pendragon Princess of Britain Queen of Gododdin
Gwyar ferch Uthr
Aurelius Arthur Arturius
Anna Marawse Pendragon
Elen (Anna)

Forgive the duplicate information.

Thanks for pointing that out that is pretty neat learning about all these people I didn't know I am "claimed" to be related to.
I am "claimed" to be the super great nephew of King Arthur. I had no idea! :D
Yeah... the fact that you didn't know this makes me question how much (if any) real research you've done here.

Edit: and I asked for a source, not just a list.
 

PolyHedral

Superabacus Mystic
I don't know about any of you, but I can trace my pre-Adamite ancestry back to a protoplasmic, primordial atomic globule. (Consequentially, my family pride is something inconceivable; I can't help it - I was born sneering. :p)

Uther Pendragon. His name was modernized into "Arthur".
Wait, they're the same person? The BBC lied to me! :sad4:
 
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painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
I can do you one better... I can trace you back to this:
pikaia.jpg39b33a20-895e-4305-b70c-bb3161de7154Larger.jpg


I can go even further too... back to a single celled critter; the ur-eukaryote. We can even tell that we are more closely related to the Archaea than the Bacteria.

wa:do
 

McBell

Unbound
Dardanus King of Arcadia
seems you have a bit of a problem here...

You are claiming that the father of Dardanus is "Zarah (Progenator of Zarahites) Ben Judah".

I cannot find this claim/connection anywhere other than your post...

Everything I can find on Dardanus says that Zeus/Jupiter is his father.....

Would you be so kind as to present your source that "Zarah (Progenator of Zarahites) Ben Judah" is the father of Dardanus?

EDIT:
I did find it!!
http://awt.ancestrylibrary.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=DESC&db=flakey&id=I332276&ti=5542
 
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McBell

Unbound
Here is part 2 Starting from where I left off

Archdruid Bran Fendigaid The Blessed [born about 1 B.C. in Britain]

King Lear of Britain[
Ceri
Digueillus ap Capoir King of Britain
Cerwyd ap Crydon of Cornwall
King Crydon ap Dyfnarth the Canbrian of Cornwall
Dyvnwarth ap Prydain Duke of Cornwall
Duke of Cornwall Prydain
Haedd ap Antonius
Antonius ap Serriol
Serriol ap Grwst
King of Briton Gwrwst
Henwyn Dux Cambria and Cornwall
Bleiddud ap Asser Duke of Cambria, Cornwall
Aser ap Cyngen
Dufnwal Hen ap Gorbonian Duke of Cambria, Cornwall
Duke Gorbonian ap Camber of Cambria, Cornwall
Camber ap Brutus Duke of Cambria, Cornwall
Brutus (Brwt) “The Dardanian A Trojan Warrior Latium King of Latium
Silvus Ap Iulis Ascarius
Aeneas (Annyn Tro)
Aeneas Ysgwydwyn ab Anchises Prince of Troy
Capps Capys
Ascaracus ben Tros
Another potential problem...
Tros is the father of Assaracus and grand father of Capys.
Anchises and the goddess Aphrodite/Venus are the parents of Aeneas...

Interesting how you have pretty much taken Greek Mythology and claimed that several of the gods and goddesses are in your direct blood line...

Sad that you purposely leave them out when you tell others...
 

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member

My family history line information is not all complied by me. I have only added a little bit to it in comparison to all the information that I have. My family has been greatly interested in family history for generations and have tons of old records and old journals documenting our family lines.

At times familysearch.org can be a really good tool when it comes to finding more information, though it is not always 100% accurate. I have been working with www.new.familysearch.org which has been amazing when it comes to doing decendency research and finding other living decendants to my common ancestors. From them I can dive into records I do not currently have and collect pictures to help put faces on every name. Unfortunately for me all I have is the name Uther Pendragon, but I can confirm the information I have in the book Geoffrey of Monmouth's History of the Kings of Britain (Historia Regum Britanniae) That is if the book is trustworthy. There are 40 different contributers on New.familysearch.org that all have agreeing information.
 

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member
Another potential problem...
Tros is the father of Assaracus and grand father of Capys.
Anchises and the goddess Aphrodite/Venus are the parents of Aeneas...

Interesting how you have pretty much taken Greek Mythology and claimed that several of the gods and goddesses are in your direct blood line...

Sad that you purposely leave them out when you tell others...

That is what the records say. Is it possible that these Greek Gods were named after actual people like in ancient Egyptian days when a Pharaoh rose up and said I am a God worship me. I suspect that might of been the case in this instance.
 

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member
I can do you one better... I can trace you back to this:
pikaia.jpg39b33a20-895e-4305-b70c-bb3161de7154Larger.jpg


I can go even further too... back to a single celled critter; the ur-eukaryote. We can even tell that we are more closely related to the Archaea than the Bacteria.

wa:do

What would be amazing is if you could find a written record of family lines that predates Noah. You up for the challenge. That would be some amazing evidence to support your case for atheisim and disproving the Bible.
 

McBell

Unbound
That is what the records say. Is it possible that these Greek Gods were named after actual people like in ancient Egyptian days when a Pharaoh rose up and said I am a God worship me. I suspect that might of been the case in this instance.
Are you merely going with the "records" say because it fits into what you want to believe, or are you actually researching the records and verifying them?

Please note how the only source for much of the tree in the link I provided is the Bible...

Also interesting to note is how closely the tree in the link follows Greek and Roman mythology...

Looks to me that you are merely sticking yourself in a tree you like to look at....
 
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McBell

Unbound
What would be amazing is if you could find a written record of family lines that predates Noah. You up for the challenge. That would be some amazing evidence to support your case for atheisim and disproving the Bible.
YOU claim to have found one clear back to Adam and Eve.....

What is amazing is that you seem to honestly believe it.
 

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member
Here is my 2nd line linking back to Adam and Eve

This is starting from one of my 8th generation Grandfathers


William Whitaker Born 22 November 1772 in Rowan North Carolina.
Joshua Whitaker
William Whitaker
Joshua Whitaker
Robert (Hugh) Whitaker
Christopher Whitaker
John Whitaker
Lawrence Whitaker
Henry Whitacre
Richard C. Whitaker
Richard Whitaker
Richard Jr Whitaker
(Mom) Pedham Camville
Roger De Camville
Vivian Davenport
Richard De Davenport
Ormus de Davenport
Lord Wolfric of Leek, Balterly of Mercia
Godwin Mercia
Leofwine Mercia
Edulph of Mercia
Etheired, Duke of Mercia
King Burgred of Mercia
Oswald of Mercia
Osher of Mercia
Bassa of Mercia
Kenrow (Centour) of Mercia
Cenwin of Mercia
Kenwalk (Cenqwalch)
Webba, King of Mercia
Crida King of Mercia
Cynewald of Mercia
Cynebba
Ichel of Mercia
King Eomaer
Angengeat of Angeltheow
Offa the Gentle King of Angeln
King Wermund, King of Angel
Wihtlaeg of Asgard
(Odin) Wodin
Frithuwald “Bor” of Asgard
Freothalaf
Frithuwulf King of Trojans
Godwulf King of Trojans
Geata (Geat, Jat) King of Trojans
Tecti (Taetwa) King of Trojans
Beowa (Beowd) King of Trojans
Scealdea
Heremond of Itermon
Heremod
Itormann (Itramann)
Athra (Atbra, Hathra) King of Troy
Bedwig (Hedwig)
(Asia) Shem
Noah the prophet
Lamech (Lamk) ben Methuselah
Methuselah
(Henoch) Enoch
Ariel ben Jared
Mahalalel
Cainan
Enos
Seth
(first man) Adam
 

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member
Are you merely going with the "records" say because it fits into what you want to believe, or are you actually researching the records and verifying them?

Please note how the only source for much of the tree in the link I provided is the Bible...

Also interesting to note is how closely the tree in the link follows Greek and Roman mythology...

Looks to me that you are merely sticking yourself in a tree you like to look at....

Going through and verifying is a continual never ending process that takes generations. I do what I can though. Mostly I have been trying to resolve problems with duplicate information by combining records.
 

Gjallarhorn

N'yog-Sothep
Here is my 2nd line linking back to Adam and Eve

This is starting from one of my 8th generation Grandfathers
Did you know HP Lovecraft traced his family tree back to Azathoth, the Blind Idiot God and creator of the universe?

I mean, it's obviously true because he said it is and I believe in Azathoth...:yes:
 

Flat Earth Kyle

Well-Known Member
YOU claim to have found one clear back to Adam and Eve.....

What is amazing is that you seem to honestly believe it.

I have found my fair share of errors doing my family history research, a hope is about all I can give it for now anyway.

The way I see it, the more family lines I can find as far back as possible the better and the more truth revealing it will be.
 

Curious George

Veteran Member
Yaddoe, I don't know if you read my post, but, again, you can trace a family back about 2-5 generations before doubt will inevitably creep into your research. You just cannot determine much more than that without as you suggested digging up all of your relatives. When I do my research which does extend beyond 2-5 generations I am reading all sorts of land deeds, wills, family stories, and traveling to other states to view materials such as books and tombstones. Sure, we put down names when we find enough evidence, but no amount of evidence can prove this. You cannot know. The further back in history you go, the more doubt there is. Sources become less and less reliable. Even when we do find sources we must realize they are limited in there accuracy. I think that it is great that you do genealogical research, but remember that you can never know. While we may find interest in digging up the stories of our forefathers, we are not them. There should be no pride in descending from a royal line or even a mythical line. You are what you do not what they did. People find all sorts of ways to connect themselves with Noah, Cleopatra, Alexander the Great, Vlad the impaler, and just about every other name in history. When you do find another person's research that asserts such please exercise much caution in adding it to your research. These claims are often borne out of some need or desire to make them seem greater than who they are. In truth, it doesn't. Whether you can trace back 2 or one hundred generations it doesn't matter. And, anyone who claims more than 5 generations cannot be sure, not even the Queen of England.
 
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