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How human and how divine Jesus was

Thana

Lady
And why do you believe I cannot share my thoughts about Christ in this DIR? Because it challenges you? You were, and are very quick to dismiss other's views about the Christian faith, for someone who claims to have no dog in the fight. In fact, considering the offensive posture you took at the outset, I would say my thoughts rattled you. That's good. I think we all should not be comfortable in our ideas and be provoked to think outside the box some. Overturn those tables of the moneychangers.

No, it doesn't challenge me. It annoys me.
Most DIRs are blue, But the Christianity DIR is green.
So you can express yourself respectfully, But that doesn't mean I have to appreciate or accept your idea's about my faith.

There is a reason why there are different DIRs.

Well now, please show me where, quote me in this thread, where I ever said I dismissed it? You can't. That is entirely your interpretation in your head alone, and it contradicts what I very clearly, and explicitly said, that loving God, and loving your neighbor as yourself is HOW you fulfill the law. Not dismiss it! Fascinating how you heard things the way you did. "Love is the fulfilling of the law". Not dismissing of the law. In fact, it is legalism that dismisses the law by not fulfilling it.

Come on, Let's not play around. Taking things figuratively is dismissing the literal meaning. Love yes, Love is the greatest commandment. Everyone knows that. But that doesn't mean you can dismiss things like graven images, taking the lords name in vain or dishonoring sabbath etc.
 

Windwalker

Veteran Member
Premium Member
No, it doesn't challenge me. It annoys me.
Why would you be annoyed if it didn't challenge you? You always have such reactions and go on the attack of others when you're comfortable with differences in view?

Most DIRs are blue, But the Christianity DIR is green.
And what I'm saying in here isn't a Christian point of view, be it green or blue? Wait. You're saying only true Christians think like you do. I see. :sad:

So you can express yourself respectfully, But that doesn't mean I have to appreciate or accept your idea's about my faith.
No you don't have to take my views and expressions of the Christian faith taken from my own experience as a Christian, those of other Christians, those of Christian scholars, historians, mystics, saints and sages if you don't wish to. No one is imposing their differences of view from a Christian perspective upon you here. I never expected that. I merely expressed my views from a Christian perspective, and you chose to enter the conversation and go on the attack by insulting me. Which is Christian and which is not in this case?

There is a reason why there are different DIRs.
I'm not talking about Hinduism in here. If I draw from other lineages' perspectives in my understanding of the Christian faith, that is in fact quite common in Christian perspective today. Unless of course again, you mean to say only your fundamentalist perspective is "true Christianity". In which case, I suggest you request a DIR dedicated to your branch of Christian faith called, "Exclusive Fundamentalist Christianity". In which case, I would not post in there.

Come on, Let's not play around. Taking things figuratively is dismissing the literal meaning. Love yes, Love is the greatest commandment. Everyone knows that. But that doesn't mean you can dismiss things like graven images, taking the lords name in vain or dishonoring sabbath etc.
Again, show me where I have said this? I may have a different interpretation of what those mean, such as a 'graven image' meaning having a theological idea of God placed before listening to the Spirit of God in your heart, but I'm not alone in these things in the Christian faith. But again, I have said clearly that the fulfillment of the law is not done by observance, but by love.

How can I say on one hand "fulfill the law", which is what I am saying, and "dismiss the law" on the other which is what you falsely without evidence accuse me of? It sounds to me as if you are hung up on an idea that won't let you see past it to what I am actually saying here. Where have I said to dismiss the law? Quote it. By the way, this just struck me of the exact conversation the Lord Jesus had with the Pharisees. Recall those many places of this accusation against him like this in scripture?
 
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Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
he followed the mosaic law all his life.

He obeyed all the commandments perfectly as you would expect a person who claimed to love God and speak on behalf of God.

Look at the mosaic laws to see how Jesus lived. He upheld those laws and lived them. They are the standards he wanted his followers to uphold because they were Gods standards.

No, He did not. He fulfilled the spirit of the Law but not the letter of the Law. He refuted parts of it and was in trouble with the Pharisees for doing so!
 

Pegg

Jehovah our God is One
No, He did not. He fulfilled the spirit of the Law but not the letter of the Law. He refuted parts of it and was in trouble with the Pharisees for doing so!

you are referring to the 'oral' laws.

Those oral laws were 'interpretations' of the mosaic law. It was mans interpretation and application which Jesus rejected.

He knew the spirit of the law and knew how to apply it and did not need or care for the traditions of men which were the oral laws.

But he most certainly did live by the mosaic law.
 

Saint Frankenstein

Here for the ride
Premium Member
you are referring to the 'oral' laws.

Those oral laws were 'interpretations' of the mosaic law. It was mans interpretation and application which Jesus rejected.

He knew the spirit of the law and knew how to apply it and did not need or care for the traditions of men which were the oral laws.

But he most certainly did live by the mosaic law.

The death penalty for adultery, "eye for an eye" and not doing any work on the Sabbath are part of the written Law, not the oral law.
 
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