How is photography not a tool of Satan?

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

In the game the main character has the soul of a dragon, there are good dragons, and the chief god of the imperial pantheon is a dragon.

Not to mention that the dragon tounge in Skyrim was based on the Norse language from real life which contradicts your earlier statement.

That is highly against dragon code...You are forbidden to take the soul of another living creature. The punishment for that idiot would be being exiled in a far away place with acid being constantly dumped on him with his guts hanging open and us tugging on his soul to make sure he feels as much pain as possible for that life and for whatever life he does. All dragons are good even "the world eater" is good. Why is it that no one complained about the noah ark thing yet they complain when a dragon tries to do the same thing.

I said it was related not exact.

 

[sovietchild]

The punishment for that idiot would be being exiled in a far away place with acid being constantly dumped on him with his guts hanging open and us tugging on his soul to make sure he feels as much pain as possible for that life and for whatever life he does./QUOTE]

Are you really expecting us to accept this?

 

[Glaurung]

I'd be more in favor of prohibiting religions that prohibit selfies.

Indirectly most do. Regular selfie taking is a good indicator of narcissism, a trait most religious traditions condemn.

Personally, I find them obnoxious.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

That is highly against dragon code...You are forbidden to take the soul of another living creature. The punishment for that idiot would be being exiled in a far away place with acid being constantly dumped on him with his guts hanging open and us tugging on his soul to make sure he feels as much pain as possible for that life and for whatever life he does. All dragons are good even "the world eater" is good. Why is it that no one complained about the noah ark thing yet they complain when a dragon tries to do the same thing.

I said it was related not exact.

If all dragons must be good, does that not mean they have no free-will?

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Indirectly most do. Regular selfie taking is a good indicator of narcissism, a trait most religious traditions condemn.

Personally, I find them obnoxious.

Personally I think the idea that the universe exists entirely for humanity is pretty narcissistic.

 

[Valjean]

David M. said:
Both still followed by Exodus 20:5
"You shall not bow down to them or worship them; for I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me,"

Just more of the same: Don't make Icons. Don't make pictures. Don't worship either; followed by an illustration of God's insecurity, petulance and vindictiveness.
The Bible does tend to get redundant, at times.

I'd be more in favor of prohibiting religions that prohibit selfies.

Those would be the Abrahamic religions.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

Are you really expecting us to accept this?

If you steal someones soul especially that of a dragon they can not go back into the stars and reform. Sure killing us dragons hurts us so much but we much rather be able to come back instead of being permanently killed

 

[Polymath257]

Indirectly most do. Regular selfie taking is a good indicator of narcissism, a trait most religious traditions condemn.

Personally, I find them obnoxious.

And I find fundamentalist religion to be obnoxious. More moderate religion can be tolerable. But both are far, far worse than mere selfies.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

If all dragons must be good, does that not mean they have no free-will?

We dragons have free will although good is a matter of perspective. Take Hitler, sure he killed a lot of people but you can argue that he was doing it to create a pure German nation. We dragons believe that reforming humans is the right thing to do things. Humans don't agree though because they are stubborn and greedy

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

We dragons have free will although good is a matter of perspective. Take Hitler, sure he killed a lot of people but you can argue that he was doing it to create a pure German nation. We dragons believe that reforming humans is the right thing to do things. Humans don't agree though because they are stubborn and greedy

Most humans do not think that dragons exist because they are bull****.

Can you prove you are a dragon?

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

Most humans do not think that dragons exist because they are bull****.

Can you prove you are a dragon?

you can not say that about us dragons considering we are not bovine, nor are we even mammals

I can prove it although that would require getting every human to say that they will stand down and not kill us.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

you can not say that about us dragons considering we are not bovine, nor are we even mammals

If you didn't know what that expression meant and was somehow to stupid to figure it out you would have said that dragons are not excrement from bovines.

I can prove it although that would require getting every human to say that they will stand down and not kill us.

So you could prove it, but only if the impossible happens.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

If you didn't know what that expression meant and was somehow to stupid to figure it out you would have said that dragons are not excrement from bovines.

I can not translate **** into words. You better check what you write before writing it.


So you could prove it, but only if the impossible happens.

I am sure it is possible

 

[Glaurung]

Personally I think the idea that the universe exists entirely for humanity is pretty narcissistic.

Christianity doesn't teach that the universe exists for humanity, it teaches that the creation exists for the greater glory of God out of which humans derive total happiness. We believe in something utterly beyond ourselves in dignity, power and value.

It isn't narcissism to believe humanity is a central piece of the creation, it's those who insist otherwise who indulge in a false humility. The real narcissists are those who blabber on about how meaningless everything is. This so called humility is nothing more than a hypocritical contrivance to attack those who see objective value in the human creature. Because the notion that real meaning exists offends the belief in the supremacy of their own freedom to pursue any and all desire.

And I find fundamentalist religion to be obnoxious. More moderate religion can be tolerable. But both are far, far worse than mere selfies.

Oh for goodness' sake, it's almost as if you're trying to be offended.

I'm not seriously suggesting that you can't post selfies. I just think that people whose main topic on a given social network are themselves are boring.

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

I am sure it is possible

Then you are very naive.

Humans have never all agreed on anything.

But back to you being a dragon, If you will only prove it if all of the humans agree on that. Then why the **** would you be going on a public forum and declaring you are a dragon?

 

[CogentPhilosopher]

Christianity doesn't teach that the universe exists for humanity, it teaches that the creation exists for the greater glory of God out of which humans derive total happiness. We believe in something utterly beyond ourselves in dignity, power and value.

So you think a god made humans in order to bask in his own glory? That god sounds really narcissistic to me.

It isn't narcissism to believe humanity is a central piece of the creation, it's those who insist otherwise who indulge in a false humility.

How is recognizing that we are a very small part of the universe a false humility?

The real narcissists are those who blabber on about how meaningless everything is.

You mean nihilists? Frankly I have not seen or heard of any nihilists that do that, but I have seen a lot of Christians trying to push their ideas for the meaning of the universe.

This so called humility is nothing more than a hypocritical contrivance to attack those who see objective value in the human creature.

1) Attacking an idea =/= attacking a person. If an idea is so central to you that you would rather believe it rather than have it questioned then you are not honest with yourself.

2) Many Secular Humanists believe there is an objective value in a human.

3) Some people, like myself, think that a human life is invaluable and thus you cannot put a value on a human.

Because the notion that real meaning exists offends the belief in the supremacy of their own freedom to pursue any and all desire.

I don't have sex.
I don't watch pornography.
I don't drink alcohol or caffeine.
I don't smoke nicotine or cannabis.
I don't do any recreational drugs.
I don't rape, steal, or murder.

I am a pacifist and I spend most of my time trying to do my schoolwork.

So please tell me how I am denying your religion to go after "any and all desire".

 

[Valjean]

If humans were God's ultimate goal, why did it take so many billions of years of life; so many starts and stops, before He finally got around to creating us?

 

[arthra]

Is photography prohibited in Islam?

According to Imam Afroz Ali photographs of humans or animals can not be displayed. All photography that is frivolous and indulgent is forbidden. This includes taking selfies where there is no real essence other than social posing.

But don't let your heart be troubled about deleting all your photos, photography is allowed if it promotes Allah, his messenger, or Islamic events.

If this is the same Imam Afroz Ali ... Why are his photos found on line?

Imam Afroz Ali - Avast Yahoo Search Results

 

[Glaurung]

So you think a god made humans in order to bask in his own glory? That god sounds really narcissistic to me.

Rather he created us to enjoy his glory.

Narcissism is an inflated sense of one's value and ability. God has no illusions about his qualities, that he is the supreme reality from which everything else is contingent is simply the state of affairs.

How is recognizing that we are a very small part of the universe a false humility?

It's not per se.

It's those who use the grandeur of the universe to argue against the value human beings are said to have to God who practice a false humility. Nihilism is a facade.

You mean nihilists? Frankly I have not seen or heard of any nihilists that do that, but I have seen a lot of Christians trying to push their ideas for the meaning of the universe.

I've seen it plenty of times. The atheist will rant about how stupid and foolish you have to be to believe that we are more than primates, that our lives have true meaning and significance beyond the animal. They'll even call it narcissism.

But again, it's all a false front.

1) Attacking an idea =/= attacking a person. If an idea is so central to you that you would rather believe it rather than have it questioned then you are not honest with yourself.

Oh please, if I just couldn't bare to see Christianity attacked do you think I'd spend any time here?

2) Many Secular Humanists believe there is an objective value in a human.

You can't believe in the objective value of anything when you reject the basis on which objective value can even exist. If there's nothing but the physical world then your values are as empirically baseless as mine.

I don't have sex.

Except for those who choose to embrace it, celibacy has never been required. In its proper context there's nothing intrinsically wrong with sex.

I don't watch pornography.

Good. Pornography is an obvious evil. It is damaging not only on a moral level but even on a psychological level. Its addictive nature eventually twists natural sexuality. The irony of the porn addict is their inability to experience real sexual love, because they've become so desensitised by their constant exposure to graphic material. That said, I don't judge people too harshly for falling into this sin. I know how hard it can be to break.

I don't smoke nicotine or cannabis.
I don't do any recreational drugs.

Eh... Good for you I guess. Nonetheless the misery those poisons cause to millions around the world are all very real.

I don't rape, steal, or murder.

Very few people do. I'm not a Calvinist, I don't believe humans are intrinsically evil.

So please tell me how I am denying your religion to go after "any and all desire".

Have a look around you, relativism and hedonism are the creeds of this age. And that's perfectly reasonable if there's nothing else but this world. Eat, drink and be merry because there's nothing for you but inevitable oblivion. The West is rejecting its belief in God, and replacing it I see nothing but a vapid cultural void of relativism.

 

[TheTruthGivingDragon]

So you think a god made humans in order to bask in his own glory? That god sounds really narcissistic to me.


How is recognizing that we are a very small part of the universe a false humility?



You mean nihilists? Frankly I have not seen or heard of any nihilists that do that, but I have seen a lot of Christians trying to push their ideas for the meaning of the universe.



1) Attacking an idea =/= attacking a person. If an idea is so central to you that you would rather believe it rather than have it questioned then you are not honest with yourself.

2) Many Secular Humanists believe there is an objective value in a human.

3) Some people, like myself, think that a human life is invaluable and thus you cannot put a value on a human.



I don't have sex.
I don't watch pornography.
I don't drink alcohol or caffeine.
I don't smoke nicotine or cannabis.
I don't do any recreational drugs.
I don't rape, steal, or murder.

I am a pacifist and I spend most of my time trying to do my schoolwork.

So please tell me how I am denying your religion to go after "any and all desire".

Yes that god made humans just to be a dick to us dragons and spread the idea that we are evil.

Every creature makes up a small part of the whole, I do not mean it like that. I mean that you are trapped in the galaxy.

What does "nihalist" mean? I am confused on that statement.

Haha there is such thing as a humanist? wow how original and speciesentric There is as much value in a human as there is in a pig, so close that you can even see the resemblance.

That is so bull****. You can put a value on a human life, so can you put a value on every other creatures life. I believe in an idea similar to socialism when it comes to the value of life. Even us dragons do not like to take lives yet to live requires some sacrifice. You humans do not respect your food. A proper respect is killing the creature yourself and saying that you require its life and to give it thanks. Humans kill a lot of species and a lot of the same kind. Humans really hate coyotes and lizards for some reason. They have culls on them or they just kill them for fur or scales. That is forbidden yet I should not tell a human what is forbidden because they don't listen anyways.

I am a pacifist too, so are all dragons. We believe in peace. I spend my time doing schoolwork too yet even as a hatching I know more about life than you do. I don't get what they "I don't" section is about.