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How is western media not trying to possess humans by creating illusions?

Nakosis

Non-Binary Physicalist
Premium Member
We all know what one might see if one were to turn the TV ‘on’ in western countries. The chances are one might see humans killing humans, illegitimate relationships, sodomy practices, and of course the supernatural movies like superman and a 100-pound woman holding a 200- pound machine gun (M134) with 100-pounds of bullets. To cut it short, falsehood and illusion. How are they not breeding illusions? Isn't that what the purpose of Satan is - manipulate and possess humans by creating illusions?

It's only a concern if one can't separate illusion from reality.
Though I can see were this might be a problem for religious folks. :cool:
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
A majority of people are able to separate the "illusions" from reality, knowing they are nothing more then fiction. :rolleyes:

I wonder why some societies like to watch movies that has pagan beliefs in them. Let's not forget about the most popular holiday of them all, the Christmas day when people celebrate Santa and Jesus at the same time. I wonder why Asians like pagan movies also? Hmm....maybe because they practice pagan religion.

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Western countries been importing warriors into middle eastern since the 1920's. What are the chances ISIS is the product of the western society? After all, FBI employee marrying to ISIS fighter only shows how close they might be.

Are you serious?

About what?

Promoting Pagan beliefs??? Clearly you missed my point and read much into it: story telling has always been around with us, likely even before modern homo sapiens (homo erectus and neanderthalensis do appear to have been capable of abstract thought). Even during Christianized Medieval Europe we had story tellers, and epics, and poems, and songs.
Literally, you are trying to blame Western Culture for something that in all reality existed long before any of us left Africa.

Yes, but western culture is promoting pagan beliefs, like a truck driver who bring alcohol to your town.

Because this never happens anywhere else :rolleyes:

You sure seem to hate western society a lot for someone using a computer or mobile device.

I don't actually hate them. It just shocks me how one can call them as bad guys for taking arms to defend their land when they the ones who invaded them, for oil. They breed terrorists around the middle east and blame it on Iran and Russia. Someone from the western world few days ago told me that ISIS was created by Russia, how about that? o_O

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LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Western countries been importing warriors into middle eastern since the 1920's. What are the chances ISIS is the product of the western society?
I would say somewhere between nil and none, given known History.

That question is quite tired, really. How fantasious can one get?

After all, FBI employee marrying to ISIS fighter only shows how close they might be.

I think that is called "grasping at straws".
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
I would say somewhere between nil and none, given known History.

That question is quite tired, really. How fantasious can one get?



I think that is called "grasping at straws".

None? What? Is this a joke? I thought ISIS fighters were mostly made out of westerners.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
None? What? Is this a joke? I thought ISIS fighters were mostly made out of westerners.
There are some oddballs recruited by them (who knows how), but surely you realize that nearly all of them are actually middle easterners?
 

SomeRandom

Still learning to be wise
Staff member
Premium Member
We all know what one might see if one were to turn the TV ‘on’ in western countries. The chances are one might see humans killing humans movies, illegitimate relationships, sodomy practices, and of course the supernatural movies like superman and a 100-pound woman holding a 200- pound machine gun (M134) with 100-pounds of bullets. To cut it short, falsehood and illusion. How are they not breeding illusions? How are they not breeding flasehood? Isn't that what the purpose of Satan is - manipulate and possess humans by creating illusions?

They're called stories. The big bad evil fiction can't actually hurt you. Honestly you've pretty much just failed like grade 1 level English/narrative comprehension skills. Lay off the weed, friend. Paranoia isn't fun.
 

Father Heathen

Veteran Member
We all know what one might see if one were to turn the TV ‘on’ in western countries. The chances are one might see humans killing humans movies, illegitimate relationships, sodomy practices, and of course the supernatural movies like superman and a 100-pound woman holding a 200- pound machine gun (M134) with 100-pounds of bullets. To cut it short, falsehood and illusion. How are they not breeding illusions? How are they not breeding flasehood? Isn't that what the purpose of Satan is - manipulate and possess humans by creating illusions?

Western audiences understand that it's purely fictitious entertainment. There is no intentional deception. Those who create such programming expect the viewers to know that it's fake. What's the issue? Also, what do you consider an "illegitimate relationship"?
 

CogentPhilosopher

Philosophy Student
I don't actually hate them.
I was talking about the culture not the people, can you not tell the difference?
It just shocks me how one can call them as bad guys for taking arms to defend their land when they the ones who invaded them, for oil.
Oh because no one else lies in their media but the west. :facepalm:

Oh and there is a difference between taking up arms to defend their land and using children as weapons.
They breed terrorists around the middle east and blame it on Iran and Russia.
That is true, but Islam is pretty predisposed to the mindset.
Someone from the western world few days ago told me that ISIS was created by Russia, how about that? o_O
If you think that the west is the only place with ignorant people then you are going to be sorely disappointed in life.
 

sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Western audiences understand that it's purely fictitious entertainment. There is no intentional deception. Those who create such programming expect the viewers to know that it's fake. What's the issue? Also, what do you consider an "illegitimate relationship"?

In Ibrahim religion, illegitimate relationship is when unmarried couple engaged in romance.
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Yes, but western culture is promoting pagan beliefs, like a truck driver who bring alcohol to your town.
How can we promote them when we actually really don't even know that much about them? Many of them, such as the Celts and Nords, what we do know comes mostly (if not exclusively) from third-party accounts. We know the Druids existed because Julius Cesare and a few others wrote about them. How can we promote their views when they themselves left behind so very little to tell us who they even were as a people, let alone how they worshiped?
 

Kilgore Trout

Misanthropic Humanist
They imported them and you know it. They is a huge conspiracy going around 9/11 anyways. How in the world did the passport of the terrorist who apparently was in the plane, ends up to be perfectly fine? This is an example how west media is breeding illusions. They import warriors and blame it on Islam. Those warriors then go around saying other nations came to destroy Islam, which is falsehood, they came for oil. Why in the world would one spend billions of dollars to destroy Islam?

Your ability to stay focused and cogent is legendary.
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
About 12,000 foreigners joined ISIS. The ISIS fighter who married to FBI employee was German. The guy on videos cutting peoples heads off was British.

How does it make 100% wrong?

Because the original claim you made was that " I thought ISIS fighters were mostly made out of westerners." 1) With an estimated 30,000 + members of ISIS, 12,000 foreign fighters would NOT be MOST. 2) Of the approximately 12,000 foreign fighters only a SMALL FRACTION come from the West. That vast MAJORITY of foreign fighters cam from 5 different countries (Tunisia, Saudi Arabia,
Russia, Turkey, and Jordan) NONE of which are part of Western Culture. 3) Thus your ridiculous claim that MOST ISIS fighters are Westerners is 100% WRONG.


Don't they follow Ibrahim religion?

Some do, some don't, and many don't follow any religion at all. That's because in Western culture people are FREE to follow whatever religion they want or to follow none at all. People in the West are FREE to define illegitimate relationships for OURSELVES, instead of allowing a handful of close-minded religious leaders to decide everything for us. What a shame that so much of the Arab world doesn't do the same.
 
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sovietchild

Well-Known Member
Because the original claim you made was that " I thought ISIS fighters were mostly made out of westerners." 1) With an estimated 30,000 + members of ISIS, 12,000 foreign fighters would NOT be MOST. 2) Of the approximately 12,000 foreign fighters only a SMALL FRACTION come from the West. That vast MAJORITY of foreign fighters cam from 5 different countries (Tunisia, Saudi Arabia,
Russia, Turkey, and Jordan) NONE of which are part of Western Culture. 3) Thus your ridiculous claim that MOST ISIS fighters are Westerners is 100% WRONG.

How is Turkey not a western country? Is it not a NATO country? North Atlantic Treaty Organization
 

QuestioningMind

Well-Known Member
How is Turkey not a western country? Is it not a NATO country? North Atlantic Treaty Organization

Being a part of a defense organizations doesn't make Turkey a Western culture. Western culture may have influenced Turkey at times, but it's cultural roots are definitely from the East.

So aside from claiming that Turkey is a part of NATO, you agree that your original claim that MOST ISIS fighters are from the West is 100% WRONG.
 
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