How Long Do You Want to Live?

[Jollybear]

I find at Matthew 5:38-39 the ' eye for eye ' is more in connection to a slap. In other words, don't retaliate.
Jesus was Not teaching denying the right to self defence, but that a Christian does Not need to pay back blow for blow or vengeance, but the principle of avoiding getting into a quarrel with someone by not retaliating or reacting in the same manner. A slap is more like an insult to provoke a fight, as would stinging insulting words be the same.
So, we are Not to give in to such a person by giving him a dose of his own medicine.
Further thought along this line of thought is found at Romans 12:17-21 and 1 Peter 3:9.
Conquer evil with the good.

Ok. Interesting stuff. That not retaliating part is a bit challenging for me. I feel some people shouldnt get away with murder sorta speak.

When i debate on here and im called a lier, when i know im not, i usually retaliate. I feel they should not get away with that cop out. They call me the lier, when in fact, that in itself is them being the real lier. And that shows a lack of intellectual accountability on there part. So, i feel they should not get away with it.

How would you handle something like this? Im refering too, how can i get a different perspective in order not to be as angry at such "slaps"?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Ok. Interesting stuff. That not retaliating part is a bit challenging for me. I feel some people shouldnt get away with murder sorta speak.
When i debate on here and im called a lier, when i know im not, i usually retaliate. I feel they should not get away with that cop out. They call me the lier, when in fact, that in itself is them being the real lier. And that shows a lack of intellectual accountability on there part. So, i feel they should not get away with it.
How would you handle something like this? Im refering too, how can i get a different perspective in order not to be as angry at such "slaps"?

I feel they are Not getting away with it, away with anything, because God can read hearts which we can't.
What they think is private is really public to God. God knows our life style whether it leans toward righteousness.
I like that sign that says, " Keep Calm and Carry On "
In Scripture the apostles could have easily gotten angry at what was "slaps", but they chose to ignore and praise God.
So, by putting God's wants in front of their feelings that put the focus outward toward God rather than toward oneself.

 

[Jollybear]

I feel they are Not getting away with it, away with anything, because God can read hearts which we can't.
What they think is private is really public to God. God knows our life style whether it leans toward righteousness.
I like that sign that says, " Keep Calm and Carry On "
In Scripture the apostles could have easily gotten angry at what was "slaps", but they chose to ignore and praise God.
So, by putting God's wants in front of their feelings that put the focus outward toward God rather than toward oneself.

True....and "vengience is mine says the lord, i will repay"

 

[URAVIP2ME]

True....and "vengeance is mine says the lord, i will repay"

The ^ above ^ being the case, then we all need to be patient. Job was patient (the Patience of Job) and he was blessed.
His happy ending turned up better than the beginning of his faithfulness and loyalty to his God.

 

[Jollybear]

The ^ above ^ being the case, then we all need to be patient. Job was patient (the Patience of Job) and he was blessed.
His happy ending turned up better than the beginning of his faithfulness and loyalty to his God.

Thats true.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Thats true.

...And I find we too can have a happy ending, Not meaning just in a resurrection hope (Acts of the Apostles 24:15)but, that at the soon coming ' time of separation ' to take place on Earth as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37,40
that we can have a happy new ' beginning ' as being saved (delivered/rescued) through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14, thus we can remain alive on Earth.
Alive on Earth to see the start of calendar Day One when Jesus begins his 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth.

 

[Jollybear]

...And I find we too can have a happy ending, Not meaning just in a resurrection hope (Acts of the Apostles 24:15)but, that at the soon coming ' time of separation ' to take place on Earth as mentioned at Matthew 25:31-33,37,40
that we can have a happy new ' beginning ' as being saved (delivered/rescued) through the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14, thus we can remain alive on Earth.
Alive on Earth to see the start of calendar Day One when Jesus begins his 1,000-year governmental rule over Earth.

Before christ comes do you see it as there has to be a new world order, as in a one world government first ruled by the antichrist?

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Before christ comes do you see it as there has to be a new world order, as in a one world government first ruled by the antichrist?

I find in Scripture that anyone who is against Christ is antichrist. So, Not one particular person.
What I find as the ' final signal ', so to speak, is found at 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3.
This is when ' they ' (the powers that be) will be saying, "Peace and Security..." as the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14 before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

Before christ comes do you see it as there has to be a new world order,...................

P.S. I am wondering how there can be any new-world order when we are in a growing out-of-order world.
Conditions are 'red hot' for a Super Storm to come.
Humanity has made this planet Hot with global warming,
Hot with out-of-control societies,
Hot with propaganda news going out as real news,
Hot with political kings/rulers putting rank and privilege before the people.
Hot with two opposing parties acting like windshield wipers putting forth their own agendas.
So, to me society has finally come up against hitting the wall in being Hot out of control.
Kind of like a fast run-away freight train on fire.
Even though many have a cavalier attitude about such a super-storm tribulation coming that does Not mean it is Not coming.
That is why humanity needs to support Earth being under a new sign " Under New Management " because Jesus is the coming 'New Manager' and those who support Christ as King of God's kingdom government can be part of that coming righteous new world as per 2 Peter 3:13.

 

[Jollybear]

P.S. I am wondering how there can be any new-world order when we are in a growing out-of-order world.
Conditions are 'red hot' for a Super Storm to come.
Humanity has made this planet Hot with global warming,
Hot with out-of-control societies,
Hot with propaganda news going out as real news,
Hot with political kings/rulers putting rank and privilege before the people.
Hot with two opposing parties acting like windshield wipers putting forth their own agendas.
So, to me society has finally come up against hitting the wall in being Hot out of control.
Kind of like a fast run-away freight train on fire.
Even though many have a cavalier attitude about such a super-storm tribulation coming that does Not mean it is Not coming.
That is why humanity needs to support Earth being under a new sign " Under New Management " because Jesus is the coming 'New Manager' and those who support Christ as King of God's kingdom government can be part of that coming righteous new world as per 2 Peter 3:13.

I agree. This world cannot expect to keep going up when it keeps disobeying God and being evil.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

I think going out in my mid to late 80s would be fine. The number doesn't matter that much; just not too young or lingering forever. I just want to go out surrounded by love and warmth from family and friends.

 

[URAVIP2ME]

I agree. This world cannot expect to keep going up when it keeps disobeying God and being evil.

So, then to me what is going to happen to a world alienated from God standards is that we are nearing the ' final signal ', so to speak, as found at 1 Thessalonians 5:2-3 when the ' powers that be ' will be saying, " Peace and Security..", but that saying of Peace will prove to be the precursor to the coming great tribulation of Revelation 7:14.
That happening before Jesus, as Prince of Peace, ushers in global Peace on Earth among persons of goodwill.