How long would it take?

[Quintessence]

Because it seems impossible to find any other group with a grievance complex the same size as that of Muslims. If that complex were a physical object it would shatter the entire planet, it's so massive.

That is an... interesting perspective. Such statements strike me as a fine example of hyperbole.

Also, there is a bigger group. It's called all of humanity. And, of course, this presumes that size here matters.

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Don't you think that Britain was the reason behind the creation of Israel starting with Balfour Declaration.

Lets discuss one by one.

I do. I don't deny that Britain actually is the reason Israel came into existence in the first place. What I have a problem with now is Israel in its current existence: surrounded by enemies, larger than it was it was first created, absolutely ****ing terrified; both because it's surrounded by enemies and, if given the chance, that even one of those enemies would finish what Hitler started.

I know, it sounds hysterical. That last bit is their position as I see it.

Israel is the way it is partly out of a false sense of entitlement to the entire area, and partly it has won wars of defence against its neighbours. That's on the Middle Easterners who attacked it from its inception.

 

[FearGod]

I do. I don't deny that Britain actually is the reason Israel came into existence in the first place. What I have a problem with now is Israel in its current existence: surrounded by enemies, larger than it was it was first created, absolutely ****ing terrified; both because it's surrounded by enemies and, if given the chance, that even one of those enemies would finish what Hitler started.

I know, it sounds hysterical. That last bit is their position as I see it.

Israel is the way it is partly out of a false sense of entitlement to the entire area, and partly it has won wars of defence against its neighbours. That's on the Middle Easterners who attacked it from its inception.

So we agree here that the west was responsible for the creation of the state of Israel, which is reality and
not blaming for just blaming.

 

[McBell]

What you have to understand is that Westerners aren't doing very well right now, their whole we are the centre of the universe stuff is collapsing around them, they are having to buy their toilet paper from China, because they can't afford American toilet paper any more, on top of that, their American toilet paper factory where they had worked for 20 years is out of business, and they can't find a new job, because they've never had to work hard in their life, the proverbial xxx is hitting the fan, so who do they blame, Muslims on the other side of the world, yeah, they're the problem.

what a load of ****...

 

[Lyndon]

Coming from you, that's a compliment!!

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

So we agree here that the west was responsible for the creation of the state of Israel, which is reality and
not blaming for just blaming.

Right. So what about the rest of the points I made?

 

[FearGod]

Right. So what about the rest of the points I made?

The Iraqi sectarian war

Look to Iraq today, not secure at all.

During Saddam's reign Iraq was much safer, so don't you agree that it's a fact too and
not just blaming.

 

[McBell]

Coming from you, that's a compliment!!

thank you for further proving my point.