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How many religions are there?

McBell

Unbound
undeniable facts of history--the jewish teachers have been telling the trinities they are serving a non existent god for the last 1700 years.
The JW teachers tell them the same.
Jesus and his real nt teachers are 100% in agreement--Jesus has a God-his Father--- Jesus)John 20:17, Rev 3:12--- Paul) 2Cor 1:3,, 1Cor 8:6, 1Cor 15:24-28--- 1Peter v1:3--- John)Rev 1:6.--- because its fact.
Still waiting.

You keep using the word fact, but your usage reveals you do not know what the word means.
 

JayJayDee

Avid JW Bible Student
Still waiting.

You keep using the word fact, but your usage reveals you do not know what the word means.

A fact is what you can see. We see that what we believe and practice is what Jesus taught. It is a fact to us but will obviously never be a fact to you or others who lack faith.

Some would say "show me proof that God exists" and others will say "show me proof that he doesn't".

Why are some people "glass half empty" and others are "glass half full"?

Why do some people's rose bushes have thorns and others thornbushes have roses?

Faith is not the possession of all people.

God is a fact to people of faith but there is no store that sells it.

I doubt there is a human being on this planet, regardless of their academic credentials, who can tell you why some people have faith and other don't.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Still waiting.

You keep using the word fact, but your usage reveals you do not know what the word means.


Its not up to me to do your research. I did my own--each must choose the path they walk. Every scholar--Jewish and supposed Christian, knows my words are facts of history. The supposed christian scholars though will say the Israelite scholars do not know God-- but in reality its they who do not know him.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
Jesus and his real nt teachers are 100% in agreement

I didn't get that impression at all when I read the NT.

Besides, being "100% in agreement" in literature doesn't strike me as an indicator of authenticity, but as an indication of artificial tampering.
 

McBell

Unbound
Its not up to me to do your research. I did my own--each must choose the path they walk. Every scholar--Jewish and supposed Christian, knows my words are facts of history. The supposed christian scholars though will say the Israelite scholars do not know God-- but in reality its they who do not know him.
You have not shown that JW is the one true god approved version.
Not even close.

Now you want to claim it is my job to do your homework?
Are you that ignorant, that desperate, or both?
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
I didn't get that impression at all when I read the NT.

Besides, being "100% in agreement" in literature doesn't strike me as an indicator of authenticity, but as an indication of artificial tampering.


You must have missed this teaching--1Corinthians 1:10
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
You have not shown that JW is the one true god approved version.
Not even close.

Now you want to claim it is my job to do your homework?
Are you that ignorant, that desperate, or both?


You are confused--I know 100% for sure the JW lead teachers are the FDS Jesus appointed. I cannot prove it--God can prove it to you--Pray to the Father as Jesus suggested--he will read your heart and if it is truly seeking true knowledge of him, he will send you to Jesus. That is how it works--I can only plant seeds and pray to the Father to water them--he does in the right hearts.
 

McBell

Unbound
You are confused--I know 100% for sure the JW lead teachers are the FDS Jesus appointed. I cannot prove it--God can prove it to you--Pray to the Father as Jesus suggested--he will read your heart and if it is truly seeking true knowledge of him, he will send you to Jesus. That is how it works--I can only plant seeds and pray to the Father to water them--he does in the right hearts.
So you have nothing but your faith which you put forth as though it were fact?

What does your deity think of such blatant dishonesty?
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
The JW,s are unified in love and peace, worldwide--a worldwide brotherhood.

So's pretty much every other individual church calling itself the "one true".

Heck, even the WBC pulls that off. Not worldwide, perhaps, but amongst themselves, they love each other, and are peaceful in their prickery.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
So's pretty much every other individual church calling itself the "one true".

Heck, even the WBC pulls that off. Not worldwide, perhaps, but amongst themselves, they love each other, and are peaceful in their prickery.


The last 2 world wars--supposed Christians stood on both sides and killed one another--my teachers applied Jesus truths and told the JW,s not to stand on both sides and do that--how can one love their brother and then blow his head off because a govt official was a total reject) 1John 3: 10-12--no slauightering of one another is allowed. Jesus real teachers apply this--no matter what govts or men say.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
The last 2 world wars--supposed Christians stood on both sides and killed one another--

And in the first of them, played soccer with each other during Christmas.

my teachers applied Jesus truths and told the JW,s not to stand on both sides and do that--how can one love their brother and then blow his head off because a govt official was a total reject) 1John 3: 10-12--no slauightering of one another is allowed. Jesus real teachers apply this--no matter what govts or men say.

And I'm more than willing to be that there were other Christian groups doing likewise. 'Sides, "I come not to bring peace, but the sword", and another aside I'm pretty sure you would have preferred Hitler not take over the world? He's pretty much the only enemy we've ever had who legitimately had that motivation.

My point still stands, anyway. You guys, far as I'm concerned, aren't in any way "special" in the grand Christian scheme. Just another church.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
And in the first of them, played soccer with each other during Christmas.



And I'm more than willing to be that there were other Christian groups doing likewise. 'Sides, "I come not to bring peace, but the sword", and another aside I'm pretty sure you would have preferred Hitler not take over the world? He's pretty much the only enemy we've ever had who legitimately had that motivation.

My point still stands, anyway. You guys, far as I'm concerned, aren't in any way "special" in the grand Christian scheme. Just another church.


I know you are wrong---- They are the only teachers who understand the true prophecys of revelation that has been passing before the worlds eyes, it is almost done.
Its just as Jesus taught it would be---As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
I know you are wrong----

Too bad I've been given no reason whatsoever to agree that I'm wrong, and have every indication that I'm right.

They are the only teachers who understand the true prophecys of revelation that has been passing before the worlds eyes, it is almost done.
Its just as Jesus taught it would be---As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note.

Again, just like pretty much every other "one true Christian church".
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
Too bad I've been given no reason whatsoever to agree that I'm wrong, and have every indication that I'm right.



Again, just like pretty much every other "one true Christian church".


99% say the antichrist will be a man--they are wrong---the number of a man--number is the key word, not man.


here is the reality of Rev 13---written over 1900 years ago.

The 7 headed beast with 10 horns.
In Daniel 7, 4 world powers have been listed, all given the mark of a beast, after those 4--the roman empire, the british empire, and the final and 7th world power--the two horned beast.
7 heads representing the 7 world powers of all time, in Daniel a horn = a kingdom---- thus 10( horns) kingdoms = a place where kingdoms gather. Gods word describes it like this.
the one that was( league of nations) and is not( death stroke-0-done away with after ww2) and yet is( death stroke got healed-united nations)

rev 13--- the two horned beast( EAGLE-LION) excercises all authority( resolutions) of the 7 headed beast--cannot buy or sell( sanctions)--makes fire( destruction) come down out of the heavens( bombs-missiles)----John had no clue what they were back then.

all see this occurring for years but its just as Jesus said it would be here in these last days---- As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note.

they are waiting for a man antichrist.

Rev 16---- with 3 ( 9/11-heartgrabbing) inspired expressions--satan misleads every kingdom on earth( govt, armies and supporters) to stand in opposition to Gods king at Har-mageddon. this is the result--Daniel 2:44)

this is a very sad reality.
 

Riverwolf

Amateur Rambler / Proud Ergi
Premium Member
99% say the antichrist will be a man--they are wrong---the number of a man--number is the key word, not man.


here is the reality of Rev 13---written over 1900 years ago.

The 7 headed beast with 10 horns.
In Daniel 7, 4 world powers have been listed, all given the mark of a beast, after those 4--the roman empire, the british empire, and the final and 7th world power--the two horned beast.
7 heads representing the 7 world powers of all time, in Daniel a horn = a kingdom---- thus 10( horns) kingdoms = a place where kingdoms gather. Gods word describes it like this.
the one that was( league of nations) and is not( death stroke-0-done away with after ww2) and yet is( death stroke got healed-united nations)

rev 13--- the two horned beast( EAGLE-LION) excercises all authority( resolutions) of the 7 headed beast--cannot buy or sell( sanctions)--makes fire( destruction) come down out of the heavens( bombs-missiles)----John had no clue what they were back then.

all see this occurring for years but its just as Jesus said it would be here in these last days---- As in the days of Noah( 99% mislead) the world took no note.

they are waiting for a man antichrist.

Rev 16---- with 3 ( 9/11-heartgrabbing) inspired expressions--satan misleads every kingdom on earth( govt, armies and supporters) to stand in opposition to Gods king at Har-mageddon. this is the result--Daniel 2:44)

this is a very sad reality.

None of that's "reality" as you claim, just your interpretation, or perhaps your church's interpretation, of an old text's imagery. Again, just like every other "one true Church" or "one true Path".

There's nothing in the text that indicates to me any sign of authentic prophecy.
 

kjw47

Well-Known Member
None of that's "reality" as you claim, just your interpretation, or perhaps your church's interpretation, of an old text's imagery. Again, just like every other "one true Church" or "one true Path".

There's nothing in the text that indicates to me any sign of authentic prophecy.



Have a good life--you will see its true.
 
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