Kilgore Trout
Misanthropic Humanist
This is even wrong about what it's wrong about. Wow.
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How Many Scientists Fabricate and Falsify Research?
- Thread starter Man of Faith
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This is even wrong about what it's wrong about. Wow.
Autodidact
Intentionally Blank
The important thing is that science has built-in mechanisms for detecting and expelling lies.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
themadhair
Well-Known Member
Look up something called 'the polar vortex', and how the the regions above the poles are isolated from the rest of the atmosphere.
Also look up the stratospheric clouds that are found there, which are almost crystallite and contain nitrous oxides which catalyse ozone destruction.
Easy to throw crap like this out idea, but it takes more work to show it false. Why dont you try actually doing your own research???
idea
Question Everything
Clean Air Causing Global Warming?
see? take any sub you want, google it, and you can convince yourself of either A or B, each viewpoint backed by scientists and peer reviewed journals.
Clean Air Causing Global Warming?
James Joyner | Friday, July 11, 2008
It seems that the leading man-made cause of global warming is environmentalism; specifically, efforts to improve air quality by reducing pollution, New Scientist reports.
Since 1980, average air temperatures in Europe have risen 1 °C: much more than expected from greenhouse-gas warming alone. Christian Ruckstuhl of the Institute for Atmospheric and Climate Science in Switzerland and colleagues took aerosol concentrations from six locations in northern Europe, measured between 1986 and 2005, and compared them with solar-radiation measurements over the same period. Aerosol concentrations dropped by up to 60 per cent over the 29-year period, while solar radiation rose by around 1 watt per square metre (Geophysical Research Letters, DOI: 10.1029/2008GL034228). “The decrease in aerosols probably accounts for at least half of the warming over Europe in the last 30 years,” says Rolf Philipona, a co-author of the study at MeteoSwiss, Switzerland’s national weather service.Say Anything’s Piligrim finds this terrifically amusing: “Well now, there’s a moral dilemna for you. If we go back to eating roots and berries and living in pre-industrial all natural bliss, one with nature and all that, we might end up with a warmer planet than if we just went ahead and enjoyed ourselves.”
Of course, clean air is a good thing in and of itself. I was, however, under the impression that the rationale for getting rid of aerosols (or, more accurately, the hydroflourocarbons that propelled them) was because we thought they were destroying the ozone layer and thereby increasing harmful ultraviolet rays from the sun. It would be quite odd, indeed, if our solution to the problem yielded the same results in a different way.
Global Warming Science in Perspective.
see? take any sub you want, google it, and you can convince yourself of either A or B, each viewpoint backed by scientists and peer reviewed journals.
themadhair
Well-Known Member
After getting called for posting crap you decide to post more stuff rather than acknowledge what others have presented to you. This particular tactic is called Gallop gishing.
IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
^ Pretty much what the scientific consensus says. Take it up with them.
IPCC - Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change
^ Pretty much what the scientific consensus says. Take it up with them.
idea
Question Everything
Obviously a "Panel on Climate Change" has a "Climate Change" agenda. If there were a "Panel of no Climate Change" that would obviously have an agenda as well. The point is everyone has an agenda, everyone is working for money. There is a lot of money to be made through carbon taxing.
Global warming? - The Denver Post
The words "global warming" provoke a sharp retort from Colorado State University meteorology professor emeritus William Gray: "It's a big scam." And the name of climate researcher Kevin Trenberth elicits a sputtered "opportunist."
The Global Warming Scam!
Joe Coleman, perhaps the world's most famous meteorologist, the founder of the WEATHER CHANNEL, has called Globing Warming, " the greatest scam in history ." Here's a short summary of what he said in November of 2007:
February 2003: Eight Reasons Why ‘Global Warming’ Is a Scam - by Joseph L. Bast - Heartlander
Eight Reasons Why ‘Global Warming’ Is a Scam
1. Most scientists do not believe human activities threaten to disrupt the Earth’s climate.
More than 17,000 scientists have signed a petition circulated by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine saying, in part, “there is no convincing scientific evidence that human release of carbon dioxide, methane, or other greenhouse gases is causing or will, in the foreseeable future, cause catastrophic heating of the Earth’s atmosphere and disruption of the Earth’s climate.” (Go to Home - Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine for the complete petition and names of signers.) Surveys of climatologists show similar skepticism.
themadhair
Well-Known Member
A bit more gallop gishing I see. Why not post links to peer reviewed papers? Or is there no such support within the climate community for your conspiracy?
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
For Idea....here are some more straws to grasp.........
idea
Question Everything
Another perfect example of someone who only sees what they want to see.
Alceste
Vagabond
Humanistheart
Well-Known Member
Most of the 'sceintists' who falsify research do so to aid their religion.
tumbleweed41
Resident Liberal Hippie
Jose Fly
Fisker of men
Sheesh....I've seen shotgun debaters before, but "idea" takes the cake! Wow. Straight from "Jose Fly's Creationist Primer"...
ragordon168
Active Member
one question for those who believe global warming is a sham.
if methane isnt the reason for global warming then how come when you fart the chair gets warmer?
if methane isnt the reason for global warming then how come when you fart the chair gets warmer?
Morse
To Extinguish
one question for those who believe global warming is a sham.
if methane isnt the reason for global warming then how come when you fart the chair gets warmer?
Actually it gets warmer because the substance is coming from your intestines, which is hotter than your skin and subsequently hotter than the chair. By default, when you apply a warm substance to a cold substance, the cold substance takes the heat from the warm substance.
The reason methane is bad is because it contributes to the greenhouse effect.
ragordon168
Active Member
lol i didnt mean for that to be taken seriously was just meant as a bit of fun.
yeah the methane thing is how i've heard vegetarians argue against meat eating. if beef wasnt eaten in such large quantities then the huge herds raised worldwide would not be needed. and since cows are one of the worst natural methane producers the reduced numbers would lower methane emmisions.
yeah the methane thing is how i've heard vegetarians argue against meat eating. if beef wasnt eaten in such large quantities then the huge herds raised worldwide would not be needed. and since cows are one of the worst natural methane producers the reduced numbers would lower methane emmisions.