How many vaccinations are too many?

[Subduction Zone]

Every time that you need vaccines it seems that you have to have two of them. And they do not seem to last a whole year before you need them agaian.

So how many is too many? 2? 4? Maybe even 6?

Well your worries are over. I doubt if anyone beats this man:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/03/05/german-man-covid-vaccine-217-shots/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3cfa35a%2F65e89fdd1c99264ac92d4e5c%2F5e14dde59bbc0f414f1b260a%2F13%2F54%2F65e89fdd1c99264ac92d4e

Yes. 217 vaccinations. Was Germany paying people to get vaccinated?

 

[The Hammer]

Every time that you need vaccines it seems that you have to have two of them. And they do not seem to last a whole year before you need them agaian.

So how many is too many? 2? 4? Maybe even 6?

Well your worries are over. I doubt if anyone beats this man:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/03/05/german-man-covid-vaccine-217-shots/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3cfa35a%2F65e89fdd1c99264ac92d4e5c%2F5e14dde59bbc0f414f1b260a%2F13%2F54%2F65e89fdd1c99264ac92d4e

Yes. 217 vaccinations. Was Germany paying people to get vaccinated?

217 vaccines..... godsdamn

 

[Subduction Zone]

217 vaccines..... godsdamn

The article does not go into detail, but I am wondering if there was some sort of way that people were being paid to get vaccinated. Could he have been scamming the system?

 

[☆Dreamwind☆]

I had a suspicion you'd bring that particular case up. It was not a smart move for that over-eager beaver. I'm sure there's a very valid reason that doctors space out vaccines.

 

[Tamino]

The article does not go into detail, but I am wondering if there was some sort of way that people were being paid to get vaccinated. Could he have been scamming the system?

No, we didn't get paid for vaccination at any point.
The only incentive was access to certain areas and jobs being restricted to vaccinated people... For that, you only needed the regular 2 or 3 shots.

However, I guess that with the decentralized system and strict privacy rules, it was probably pretty easy for that guy to schedule vaccinations at multiple doctors and centers. His health insurance would have covered it (and I suspect that the insurance company was the party who caught him at it)

 

[Revoltingest]

Every time that you need vaccines it seems that you have to have two of them. And they do not seem to last a whole year before you need them agaian.

Not all vaccinations require 2 doses.
And the boosters are typically just one,
eg, Covid 19, RSV, pneumonia, flu.
Yearly updates are useful because they
address new variants.
If you could do away with evolution, we
wouldn't need boosters for new ones.

 

[beenherebeforeagain]

Every time that you need vaccines it seems that you have to have two of them. And they do not seem to last a whole year before you need them agaian.

OH MY GOD!!!!! They might be a little inconvenient!!!!

Do away with them all!!!!

 

[Sargonski]

Every time that you need vaccines it seems that you have to have two of them. And they do not seem to last a whole year before you need them agaian.

So how many is too many? 2? 4? Maybe even 6?

Well your worries are over. I doubt if anyone beats this man:

https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2024/03/05/german-man-covid-vaccine-217-shots/?utm_campaign=wp_post_most&utm_medium=email&utm_source=newsletter&wpisrc=nl_most&carta-url=https%3A%2F%2Fs2.washingtonpost.com%2Fcar-ln-tr%2F3cfa35a%2F65e89fdd1c99264ac92d4e5c%2F5e14dde59bbc0f414f1b260a%2F13%2F54%2F65e89fdd1c99264ac92d4e

Yes. 217 vaccinations. Was Germany paying people to get vaccinated?

"Although they could not find any signs that the man had ever contracted the coronavirus, they said they weren’t able to establish a causal relationship between his “hypervaccination regimen” and avoiding infection."

K .. so how many is too many ? -- happilly the fellow played russian roullette 217 times and didn't kill himself .. so how many is too many given the risk of an SAR on average is 1 in 800.

but OK ... so the fellow would need to jab another 183 times to be roughly 50-50 chance of an SAR .. if this person is not 16-30 .. in which case the odds are 1 in 300 and this fellow is 2/3rds of the way to having his number come up.

A healthy male getting covid Covid is not going to do anywhere near an SAR .. and that is assuming the vax prevents average folks from getting really sick which it doesn't -- cause they don't get sick like that from Covid.

Thus ... 1 Jab is too many for all but the very old and very unhealthy ready for dead crowd ... like legionaires .. only the extremely weak are going to die in significant numbers.

 

[Subduction Zone]

Not all vaccinations require 2 doses.
And the boosters are typically just one,
eg, Covid 19, RSV, pneumonia, flu.
Yearly updates are useful because they
address new variants.
If you could do away with evolution, we
wouldn't need boosters for new ones.

I know. It was a bit of click baiting to see if we could here from some science deniers. And they have shown up.

 

[Subduction Zone]

No, we didn't get paid for vaccination at any point.
The only incentive was access to certain areas and jobs being restricted to vaccinated people... For that, you only needed the regular 2 or 3 shots.

However, I guess that with the decentralized system and strict privacy rules, it was probably pretty easy for that guy to schedule vaccinations at multiple doctors and centers. His health insurance would have covered it (and I suspect that the insurance company was the party who caught him at it)

Thank you. I was wondering about his motivation. I guess you can have crazies that will take as man shots as they can get just as there are crazies that deny the effectiveness of the vaccine and over state its supposed dangers.

 

[Revoltingest]

I know. It was a bit of click baiting to see if we could here from some science deniers. And they have shown up.

I figured.
But I believe that responding to such
posts at face value is useful for them.

 

[Unfettered]

One is too many for me. But let each decide for himself.

 

[Mock Turtle]

One is too many for me. But let each decide for himself.

So, have you prosecuted your parents for any they agreed to when you were young - and done to ensure your health? Given that vaccines only tend to work when sufficient numbers of any population have them - like the Covid ones.

 

[Unfettered]

So, have you prosecuted your parents for any they agreed to when you were young and done to ensure your health?

Of course not. Why would I do that?

Given that vaccines only tend to work when sufficient numbers of any population have them - like the Covid ones.

Your apparent understanding of the purpose of vaccines informs well the question of why so many people believe that they have a right to their neighbors' medical information and decisions.

Surely I'm not the only one who is puzzled by the fact that for every other medical intervention or treatment one goes to a licensed medical practitioner, but to get a vaccine one goes to a government agent?

 

[Mock Turtle]

Of course not. Why would I do that?

Well you just seem to have an attitude to one particular vaccine.

Your apparent understanding of the purpose of vaccines informs well the question of why so many people believe that they have a right to their neighbors' medical information and decisions.

What has this to do with the effectiveness of such protections? It is well known that below a certain percentage of people being vaccinated then control of disease spread is far less effective - hence why so many agree to have vaccines even though they might have doubts - because they have a social conscience and people often die when they get infected.

Surely I'm not the only one who is puzzled by the fact that for every other medical intervention or treatment one goes to a licensed medical practitioner, but to get a vaccine one goes to a government agent?

You might in your country but here we deal with the NHS or appointed medical services.

 

[Unfettered]

Well you just seem to have an attitude to one particular vaccine.

That's correct; I do.

What has this to do with the effectiveness of such protections? It is well known that below a certain percentage of people being vaccinated then control of disease spread is far less effective - hence why so many agree to have vaccines even though they might have doubts - because they have a social conscience and people often die when they get infected.

If a person doesn't believe what you believe and, therefore, doesn't do what you do, that means he has no "social conscience"?

You might in your country but here we deal with the NHS or appointed medical services.

That seems more reasonable to me. Because government has commandeered the vaccine industry here in the US, vaccination is not a medical intervention, but a political intervention. Joe Biden was against the COVID-19 vaccine when his political enemy was pushing for its development. He poo-pooed it on several occasions, goading the American people to NOT get the vaccine, challenging them with "Who's going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say 'sign me up?'" He changed his mind immediately after being elected president. After that—once it belonged to the right political party, and once the right person was in charge of it (himself)—he was fully on board and he got the jab. On TV! Yeah, to set a good example to all the subordinate serfs, he made his private, medical activities a public spectacle.

And folks wonder why so many Americans see the vaccine as a political tool?

Seriously...

 

[SkepticThinker]

Of course not. Why would I do that?

Your apparent understanding of the purpose of vaccines informs well the question of why so many people believe that they have a right to their neighbors' medical information and decisions.

Surely I'm not the only one who is puzzled by the fact that for every other medical intervention or treatment one goes to a licensed medical practitioner, but to get a vaccine one goes to a government agent?

Wait what? You got your vaccine from a "government agent" .... ?
Like, the Men in Black came to your house??

 

[SkepticThinker]

That's correct; I do.
If a person doesn't believe what you believe and, therefore, doesn't do what you do, that means he has no "social conscience"?
That seems more reasonable to me. Because government has commandeered the vaccine industry here in the US, vaccination is not a medical intervention, but a political intervention. Joe Biden was against the COVID-19 vaccine when his political enemy was pushing for its development. He poo-pooed it on several occasions, goading the American people to NOT get the vaccine, challenging them with "Who's going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say 'sign me up?'" He changed his mind immediately after being elected president. After that—once it belonged to the right political party, and once the right person was in charge of it (himself)—he was fully on board and he got the jab. On TV! Yeah, to set a good example to all the subordinate serfs, he made his private, medical activities a public spectacle.

And folks wonder why so many Americans see the vaccine as a political tool?

Seriously...

Huh? Sounds like MAGA disinformation to me.


“Scientific breakthroughs don’t care about calendars any more than the virus does,” he said. “They certainly don’t adhere to election cycles. And their timing and their approval and their distribution should never, ever be distorted by political considerations. It should be determined by science and safety alone.” ...

.... Mr. Biden said Wednesday that he would personally take a vaccine if scientists said it was safe, even if it were approved under Mr. Trump’s watch. “Absolutely, do it, yes,” he said, answering a question from a reporter.

Biden, Seizing on Worries of a Rushed Vaccine, Warns Trump Can’t Be Trusted (Published 2020)

Thrusting the issue of a coronavirus vaccine to the center of the campaign, Joe Biden said he trusted vaccines, but not a politicized development process. His comments came as the president publicly rebuked the top federal scientist.

www.nytimes.com

 

[Mock Turtle]

That's correct; I do.
If a person doesn't believe what you believe and, therefore, doesn't do what you do, that means he has no "social conscience"?

I think like most reasonable and intelligent people I tend to take the advice of experts, and particularly those of the medical profession who have no political bias - at least not in most countries I would assume. Given that we can't always have certainty over such things.

That seems more reasonable to me. Because government has commandeered the vaccine industry here in the US, vaccination is not a medical intervention, but a political intervention. Joe Biden was against the COVID-19 vaccine when his political enemy was pushing for its development. He poo-pooed it on several occasions, goading the American people to NOT get the vaccine, challenging them with "Who's going to take the shot? Are you going to be the first one to say 'sign me up?'" He changed his mind immediately after being elected president. After that—once it belonged to the right political party, and once the right person was in charge of it (himself)—he was fully on board and he got the jab. On TV! Yeah, to set a good example to all the subordinate serfs, he made his private, medical activities a public spectacle.

But surely you looked at what so many other countries were doing - the more sensible ones that is, and not the ones like Brazil at the time that had a leader who seemed to dismiss the pandemic - as Trump seemed to do initially.

And folks wonder why so many Americans see the vaccine as a political tool?

Seriously...

As above - look wider than one's own country - even if a number of different vaccines were in development at the time. Of course we can't be sure but a social conscience goes a long way as to defeating things like epidemics.

 

[Unfettered]

Huh? Sounds like MAGA disinformation to me.


“Scientific breakthroughs don’t care about calendars any more than the virus does,” he said. “They certainly don’t adhere to election cycles. And their timing and their approval and their distribution should never, ever be distorted by political considerations. It should be determined by science and safety alone.” ...

.... Mr. Biden said Wednesday that he would personally take a vaccine if scientists said it was safe, even if it were approved under Mr. Trump’s watch. “Absolutely, do it, yes,” he said, answering a question from a reporter.

I'm talking about what he said before Sept 16, 2001. Look it up. Get educated. I haven't ever voted for President Trump. Oops. Didn't check your facts there, either.