How moral this is?

[Me Myself]

Scenario A

You see someone with a t-shirt that you like a lot. It has really cool artwork or maybe a witty message, or anything that really catches your attention. You are half through reading-it/appreciating-it and the person tells you to stop looking.

You keep looking till you finish reading/appreciating

Scenario B

The same, but with a tattoo in the back instead of a t-shirt. The person turns around and wont even notice you have kept watching, but still had asked you to stop.

You keep looking till you finish reading/appreciating

 

[Debater Slayer]

I don't know about "moral," but if someone asks you to stop looking at them, then I think the respectful and proper thing to do is to heed their request and quit looking. It's their own body, and if they ask you to take your eyes off it, then your looking at them has most likely made them uncomfortable for one reason or another.

And just so this is clear, MM: Are you in any way trying to equate this with or even compare it to looking at someone in a way that may suggest you are sexually objectifying them?

 

[Me Myself]

I don't know about "moral,"

What do you mean you dont know about "moral"?

And just so this is clear, MM: Are you in any way trying to equate this with or even compare it to looking at someone in a way that may suggest you are sexually objectifying them?

Right now, I am making a question and am curious on the various possible several answers, and to what people naturally compare it to, associate it with, which kind of things they value in such scenarios, etc.

The question is a moral one though.

 

[Terrywoodenpic]

Most people do not like being stared at
Most people like being complimented.

I would say I am sorry if they thought I was staring at them, But that is an excellent/interesting "T Shirt illustration" or " Tattoo "

This is not a moral issue, it is a social intercourse issue and subject to local norms.

 

[Quintessence]

I don't ground my ethics in morals, so I really don't care if it is "moral" or not. I'm pretty much in line with what DS said: if someone asks you to quit staring at them, quit staring at them. That is the polite and proper thing to do.

 

[Daemon Sophic]

I don't ground my ethics in morals, so I really don't care if it is "moral" or not. I'm pretty much in line with what DS said: if someone asks you to quit staring at them, quit staring at them. That is the polite and proper thing to do.

While true in general, real life scenarios are never as black and white as the OP options imply.
The subjects of A and B put out artwork for the world to see. Not for their own peace of mind. To suggest otherwise is like putting up a sign like....

Stop Reading This!
You Damn Gawker!​

As you see, :no: it don't work like that.
By the way; why did you violate my privacy just there?

Given the scenarios, I would tell the A and B wearers that I really like the item, and ask where they got it. Thus getting more information. Getting a longer time to look at it. and Letting the wearer know that I'm not salivating :drool: over their curvaceous bod.

BTW....I voted both scenarios as 'neutral'.

 

[Quintessence]

I don't know about where you live, but the odds are that if someone is asking me to quit staring at them, it's because I've been doing so long enough that it's making them uncomfortable. I don't see any other proper response to that than to apologize and quit staring.

Most people do not adorn themselves to be as an art gallery where they find it acceptable to be stared at for a long period of time. In my culture, staring at people in general is rude and not acceptable.

 

[Koldo]

It is pretty rare, in my experience, for someone to make a request like that.

I think it is relevant to take into consideration how long person A has been staring at person B, for example. There is a large difference between 'OH MY GOD, ARE YOU READING WHAT IS WRITTEN ON MY T-SHIRT?!' and 'OH MY GOD, IT IS JUST A SENTENCE; NOT AN ENTIRE BOOK!'.

 

[Penumbra]

Most people do not like being stared at
Most people like being complimented.

I would say I am sorry if they thought I was staring at them, But that is an excellent/interesting "T Shirt illustration" or " Tattoo "

This is not a moral issue, it is a social intercourse issue and subject to local norms.

^Pretty much this.

 

[oldbadger]

Scenario A

You see someone with a t-shirt that you like a lot. It has really cool artwork or maybe a witty message, or anything that really catches your attention. You are half through reading-it/appreciating-it and the person tells you to stop looking.

You keep looking till you finish reading/appreciating

Scenario B

The same, but with a tattoo in the back instead of a t-shirt. The person turns around and wont even notice you have kept watching, but still had asked you to stop.

You keep looking till you finish reading/appreciating

To keep reading in either scenario is just 'high contention' which can lead to 'high conflict'.

Sometimes people who have 'loud' tattoos or 'loud' T-shirt messages are actually looking for contention and conflict, so it's a good idea to get to suss 'em out and leave 'em alone.

There's an ultra-high contention high-conflict person round here who has dyed their hair different colours on each side, with extra-OTT makeup and wears very scanty amounts of clothing. Whenever people look at this person they get shouted at, or the side of their car kicked, or other stuff. Obviously low-contention people don't bother to look at this person.

Why would we?

 

[michel]

Most people do not like being stared at
Most people like being complimented.

I would say I am sorry if they thought I was staring at them, But that is an excellent/interesting "T Shirt illustration" or " Tattoo "

This is not a moral issue, it is a social intercourse issue and subject to local norms.

Exactly.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I don't see an issue of morality. However, it is rude to stare, and to keep staring and not mention the shirt or tattoo and just keep staring would be very rude.

 

[Me Myself]

Most people do not like being stared at
Most people like being complimented.

I would say I am sorry if they thought I was staring at them, But that is an excellent/interesting "T Shirt illustration" or " Tattoo "

This is not a moral issue, it is a social intercourse issue and subject to local norms.

The tattoo is part of them, is it not? if it is, you could say you are staring at them anyways?

 

[Me Myself]

I don't see an issue of morality. However, it is rude to stare, and to keep staring and not mention the shirt or tattoo and just keep staring would be very rude.

what you mean not to mention? why woud it be different to mention or not to mention the reason you are staring?

 

[Vinayaka]

As for the catchy slogan one, if you don't want people staring at you, don't wear a t-shirt with a slogan on it. One can always ask, I suppose, "What does your shirt say?"

 

[Me Myself]

As for the catchy slogan one, if you don't want people staring at you, don't wear a t-shirt with a slogan on it. One can always ask, I suppose, "What does your shirt say?"

What was your vote? (I wish I had made them public, but I alays forget to put it so

 

[Koldo]

As for the catchy slogan one, if you don't want people staring at you, don't wear a t-shirt with a slogan on it. One can always ask, I suppose, "What does your shirt say?"

"None of your business!"

 

[Vinayaka]

What was your vote? (I wish I had made them public, but I alays forget to put it so

If someone asks me to stop doing something, I stop. It shouldn't make a difference if they can see you or not. But something like this doesn't really fall very heavy into the morals category. Social norms, yeah.

 

[ChristineES]

If people don't want people to read their shirts or look at their tattoos, then why would they wear them or have one? It reminds me of people in the 80s, who would grow 2 feet hair, cut into a Mohawk and dye it bright orange and not want anyone to look at him/her strangely. So, I vote morally neutral.

 

[Me Myself]

If someone asks me to stop doing something, I stop. It shouldn't make a difference if they can see you or not. But something like this doesn't really fall very heavy into the morals category. Social norms, yeah.

Thar's why I voted socially neutral on both acounts.