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How moral this is?

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  • Scenario A is morally neutral scenario B is morally wrong

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Scenario A is morally wrong scenario B is morally wrong

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Scenario A is morally neutral scenario B is morally neutral

    Votes: 8 53.3%
  • Scenario A is morally wrong scenario B is morally neutral

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Papaya is making an omellete, so it must understand.

    Votes: 2 13.3%
  • Other

    Votes: 3 20.0%

  • Total voters
    15

Me Myself

Back to my username
If people don't want people to read their shirts or look at their tattoos, then why would they wear them or have one? It reminds me of people in the 80s, who would grow 2 feet hair, cut into a Mohawk and dye it bright orange and not want anyone to look at him/her strangely. So, I vote morally neutral.

Maybe they wore a random t shirt, unexpectant someone would take notice of it to the point he would try to read out the letters or figure out the figures (some of those are really abstract!)
 

The Sum of Awe

Brought to you by the moment that spacetime began.
Staff member
Premium Member
Scenario A is denying as per request, ignoring their feelings and thoughts for your own sake. Thus, I found it morally wrong.

Though, in Scenario B, they don't know it is effecting them, they could have thought you stopped looking and what they don't know doesn't hurt them if it only would effect them emotionally. Though, the ignorance is bliss philosophy is not always the best to follow, though in emotional dilemmas I see it to be accurate as long as it's 100% sure the victim is ignorant of the situation. Which is why I voted "A is wrong B is neutral"
 

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
what you mean not to mention? why woud it be different to mention or not to mention the reason you are staring?
To clarify that you are looking and admiring the shirt and or tattoo, and not just being rude and staring.
 

InChrist

Free4ever
I don't know why anyone would have tattoos or T-shirts with messages on them if they don't want others to look at them in the first place.
 

Debater Slayer

Vipassana
Staff member
Premium Member
What do you mean you dont know about "moral"?

I don't think the question really has much to do with morality but rather with respecting other people's boundaries, i.e., refraining from making them uncomfortable and not staring at them after being asked not to. Generally, I tend to avoid using terms that I feel are loaded and indicative of absoluteness, like "moral"/"immoral," "good"/"bad," etc. They usually carry more baggage and connotations to many people than is necessary to accurately describe how I feel about any given situation or hypothetical.

Right now, I am making a question and am curious on the various possible several answers, and to what people naturally compare it to, associate it with, which kind of things they value in such scenarios, etc.

The question is a moral one though.

Fair enough. Thanks for the clarification.
 

Monk Of Reason

༼ つ ◕_◕ ༽つ
Generally one should just inform the person you were reading their shirt or tatoo. If they didn't want the shirt/tattoo to be read then they wouldn't have gotten it. I mean are you being an ******* about it? Or are you just reading it? Is it a female who has a design over her breasts and its misinterpreted as sexual harrasment? I'm trying to find out how reading a shirt is morally wrong under any circumstance.
 

Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Reading a shirt or admiring a tattoo shouldn't take too long. If someone comments at another person about looking at them so quickly that the person hasn't even finished reading the shirt yet, that's kind of uncool.

Staring is just weird, though. I was in line at the post office the other day and there was this guy in line just staring at me for so long. I would look away, then look back to see if he's still looking and he was, so I'd look away, check my cell phone, look back to see if he's still staring and he was, etc. Really freaking creepy. Just don't do that to people.
 

Tiberius

Well-Known Member
I'd go home and google what I read to find the shirt for sale online so I could read the whole thing.
 

michel

Administrator Emeritus
Staff member
I don't see an issue of morality. However, it is rude to stare, and to keep staring and not mention the shirt or tattoo and just keep staring would be very rude.

I am not sure that I agree that it is rude to stare.

My view is that when someone insists on sporting pictorial or verbal messages on tee shirts, they are, by their actions making a statement. That statement is directed at the public, and the public can hardly be blamed for feeling the need to read "the message" which the wearer of the tee shirt, or tattoo, is shouting out aloud to anyone they meet.
 

Alceste

Vagabond
Reading a shirt or admiring a tattoo shouldn't take too long. If someone comments at another person about looking at them so quickly that the person hasn't even finished reading the shirt yet, that's kind of uncool.

Staring is just weird, though. I was in line at the post office the other day and there was this guy in line just staring at me for so long. I would look away, then look back to see if he's still looking and he was, so I'd look away, check my cell phone, look back to see if he's still staring and he was, etc. Really freaking creepy. Just don't do that to people.

Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I don't mind being stared at. Kids and animals, for example, stare at me a lot. They stare at everybody, sure, but I feel happy for the connection. I feel like it gives me a few seconds to plant a seed. To say "hey, I see you too - you're OK! It's gonna be OK!" I feel safe around here to give the same exchange to horny people. I'm not available, and I assume that's obvious, so what harm is there in somebody getting an eyeful?
 

Aquitaine

Well-Known Member
I suppose looking isn't bad so long as you're not affecting the other person, like making them feel uncomfortable or whatever.

Sometimes though, if someone's wearing lots of bright, expressive clothing or has a totally wacky hairstyle, obviously people are gonna look. The way I see it, you can look but it's rude to stare.
 

Terrywoodenpic

Oldest Heretic
So how about taking a photo of them... street style....

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Penumbra

Veteran Member
Premium Member
Maybe I'm a weirdo, but I don't mind being stared at. Kids and animals, for example, stare at me a lot. They stare at everybody, sure, but I feel happy for the connection. I feel like it gives me a few seconds to plant a seed. To say "hey, I see you too - you're OK! It's gonna be OK!" I feel safe around here to give the same exchange to horny people. I'm not available, and I assume that's obvious, so what harm is there in somebody getting an eyeful?
I don't mind if kids or animals stare. I had a kid stare at me before in line so I just stared back at him in sort of a goofy blinking contest and smiled.

A middle-aged man staring without breaking eye contact and not being subtle about it while only a few feet away for a very long time- weird. I don't know what the deal was.
 
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