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How much do you question your religion, worldview or faith?

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
If you can't accept God trough scriptures or religion because you find it completely unacceptable and question your self according to that, then you question things like:
why is there something rather than nothing
are we alone
is universe real etc.
This may lead to accepting that God exists in the end.

Quest for truth requires questioning IMO.
If I were motivated by a desire to find "the truth" - whatever that happens to be - why would I look to religion of all things as any part of my quest?

Why would I ever point to religion and say "yes - this looks like a way for me to find some 'truth'?"
 

paradox

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If I were motivated by a desire to find "the truth" - whatever that happens to be - why would I look to religion of all things as any part of my quest?

Why would I ever point to religion and say "yes - this looks like a way for me to find some 'truth'?"
because in quest for truth you don't know what is truth, you need to explore every option possible.
Once you eliminate everything you either found truth or you didn't.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
because in quest for truth you don't know what is truth, you need to explore every option possible.
But why would I even consider religion an option?

I mean, I consider religion basically a hobby. Even though I couldn't rule out the possibility that I might have some paradigm-exploding insight while, for instance, gardening or collecting stamps, I wouldn't ever say that my pursuit of knowledge or truth is incomplete if I don't garden and collect stamps.

Why should I regard religion differently from other hobbies?

Once you eliminate everything you either found truth or you didn't.
But I could spend a lifetime pursuing truth and only scratch the surface of "everything" without ever giving religion a second thought.

I just don't see what getting into religion has to do with the pursuit of truth... to say nothing of whether religion is a worthwhile way to pursue truth.
 

paradox

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Even though I couldn't rule out the possibility that I might have some paradigm-exploding insight while, for instance, gardening or collecting stamps, I wouldn't ever say that my pursuit of knowledge or truth is incomplete if I don't garden and collect stamps.

Why should I regard religion differently from other hobbies?

But I could spend a lifetime pursuing truth and only scratch the surface of "everything" without ever giving religion a second thought.

I would say this is because you seem to assume that truth has to do "everything", or that is should answer only those things in which you are personally interested.
While this is not false it's not complete either.

Truth in addition to universally answering many questions also reveals what is not obvious, it also unravels new questions and reveals things like new knowledge and wisdom.

Why considering religion?
Religion isn't only about God or morality or how one should behave according to some set of rules.
ie. I learned from religion something that was far from obvious, something very esoteric and worthy of respect.
I think an individual must reveal this on it's own in order to respect it, esoteric knowledge must be earned.

There is one passage in the bible which say it's not easy:
Matthew 7:14
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
I would say this is because you seem to assume that truth has to do "everything", or that is should answer only those things in which you are personally interested.
While this is not false it's not complete either.
No, that's not what I'm assuming.

Truth in addition to universally answering many questions also reveals what is not obvious, it also unravels new questions and reveals things like new knowledge and wisdom.
Couldn't we say this might be true about absolutely any pursuit, though?

Even if something has no obvious benefit, this doesn't mean it can't have benefits that aren't obvious.

Why considering religion?
Religion isn't only about God or morality or how one should behave according to some set of rules.
ie. I learned from religion something that was far from obvious, something very esoteric and worthy of respect.
I think an individual must reveal this on it's own in order to respect it, esoteric knowledge must be earned.
I've had similar experiences in just about every hobby I've ever tried seriously. I've had profound, "esoteric" realizations while cycling, doing martial arts, and standing next to a racetrack with a set of flags.

How is religion different from other hobbies in this regard?

There is one passage in the bible which say it's not easy:
Matthew 7:14
This suggests to me that religion - something that many people follow - would not be "the way".
 

Heyo

Veteran Member
But I could spend a lifetime pursuing truth and only scratch the surface of "everything" without ever giving religion a second thought.

I just don't see what getting into religion has to do with the pursuit of truth... to say nothing of whether religion is a worthwhile way to pursue truth.
I don't think pursuing truth isn't worthwhile. But there are better ways. Science has an exceptional track record in revealing truth about the universe. Maths is great in pursuing truth about numbers. Philosophy, well, not that great, but at least it is open ended and not as dogmatic as religion.
 
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